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Coach Hating Kills Recruiting

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  • RockytopATL said...

    OK, guys. The latest Wednesday with Wes thread strongly supports something I have believed for a long time. This constant Dooley bashing, when is he going to get fired ish, who's our next coach BS, how hot is Dooley's seat crap, does nothing but hurt recruiting and damage the program and its future.

    You are here because you are a recruiting freak, right? You want UT in the Top 10, right? So why do you rip Dooley on the forum recruiting freaks live on? By the way, recruiting freaks include recruits and parents of recruits. Before you deny that, I'll point out that MZTERRY (mother of Jason Croom) posted often here. I got a PM one day from another recruit's father who was concerned about a post. THEY ARE ALL OVER THIS SITE! Just by being here, you are a key spokesperson for the University of Tennessee and your words are read, dissected, and taken into account by decisionmakers. Definition: recruits and their parents.

    Hopefully, you guys respect Wes. He is the senior writer here, the bearded wonder, the One With Sources, the guy we listen to. Here is what he said on the subject in the above mentioned WWW Thread:

    "Not sure how much it hurts, but I know it doesn't help. Kids are sent emails and texts of the things UT fans say about players on message boards and stuff."

    Truly a quote for the ages. Profound.

    In his very next post, he elaborated:

    "To add to the answer above, I don't know how I — as a recruit or the father of a recruit right now — could ever sign or suggest that my kid sign with a place as vitriolic and hostile as the situation as UT at this point in time. I'm just being honest. I couldn't do it."

    OK, so this is the bottom line. If we love UT football, and we want to win, and we want to kick some butt in recruiting, we need to support Coach Dooley. We need to stop trashing him, lay off the negative, support the team and support this coach.

    Dave Hart, the Board of Trustees, and the major donors will eventually decide his future. Not us. Meanwhile, let's be fans.

    Go vols

    Support your team. Back their coach. To the hilt.

    Good stuff. You don't see many threads with 40 plus up votes attached to them.

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  • DTF, you're one of the more insightful posters on this board...I agree 100% with your comments and would only add that with our 1st Amendment right of "Freedom of Speech", I believe comes a definite level of "responsible" speech. I'm not trying to open a debate on that subject other than to say that a certain degree of responsible comment/opinion on Dooley & the current state of the program would go a long way to defuse legitimate concerns on the impact on recruiting and, let us not forget, morale for the team!

    I'm not sure what the answer should be on the coaching change, other than I lean in the direction of giving CDD the full 4yrs unless there's a complete meltdown in Nov. I know there a number of members that believe we have to get this handled ASAP given the programs (AR, KY, Auburn) that are likely or highly likely to make coaching changes after this season and that the available coaches worth consideration will be taken off the board sooner than later given behind the scenes jockeying that is probably going on as we speak. I get that. BUT, as I've said in other threads on the subject, anything short of a high profile/game-changer/"Saban-like" hire, will be nothing more than a lateral move and a lateral hire does NOTHING! We'll be having this same debate in another 3yrs! We can all debate who meets that high-profile threshold, but I guarantee you there are VERY few choices and all kinds of reasons on why those few may or may not seriously consider an offer from UT.

    That being said, I encourage ya''ll to support our VOLs and the coaching staff the remainder of the season and let the chips fall where they may! GBO

    mlm

  • DownTheField said...

    I think he is referring to the OVERLY negative posts. A negative perspective is usually derived from negative results. Understandable, considering the circumstances. I would not consider, "We are not good this year, and I think Dooley should go" to be overly negative. And after saying that, giving valid, reasonable, and realistic points to back up your opinion. That is what a message board is for. Voicing your opinion. I have read multiple posts basically saying that Dooley should go, that I didn't necessarily agree with, but they made some good points, so I at least respected the post. But when someone just completely ignores the other side of the argument and just spews nothing but toxic nonsense, that is overly negative, and can only hurt the situation. And I do agree that anyone who pays to be a part of the community should be able to voice their opinion. But you have to at least word it in a way that is not completely void of tact and logic. I have seen some crazy posts in the past four days. Though it is their opinion and they are entitled to it, you have to ask yourself, am I being a part of the problem or the solution ?

    My earlier post was in reply to Down The Field...just to clarify

    mlm

  • mlm said...

    DTF, you're one of the more insightful posters on this board...I agree 100% with your comments and would only add that with our 1st Amendment right of "Freedom of Speech", I believe comes a definite level of "responsible" speech. I'm not trying to open a debate on that subject other than to say that a certain degree of responsible comment/opinion on Dooley & the current state of the program would go a long way to defuse legitimate concerns on the impact on recruiting and, let us not forget, morale for the team!

    I'm not sure what the answer should be on the coaching change, other than I lean in the direction of giving CDD the full 4yrs unless there's a complete meltdown in Nov. I know there a number of members that believe we have to get this handled ASAP given the programs (AR, KY, Auburn) that are likely or highly likely to make coaching changes after this season and that the available coaches worth consideration will be taken off the board sooner than later given behind the scenes jockeying that is probably going on as we speak. I get that. BUT, as I've said in other threads on the subject, anything short of a high profile/game-changer/"Saban-like" hire, will be nothing more than a lateral move and a lateral hire does NOTHING! We'll be having this same debate in another 3yrs! We can all debate who meets that high-profile threshold, but I guarantee you there are VERY few choices and all kinds of reasons on why those few may or may not seriously consider an offer from UT.

    That being said, I encourage ya''ll to support our VOLs and the coaching staff the remainder of the season and let the chips fall where they may! GBO

    agreed and thanks for the kind words

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  • You know what really kills recruiting? Dooley is an average (at best) recruiter who lets his assistants do most of the work. Couple this with an inability to win games and you are going nowhere fast. It isn't the fans' fault that the Head Coach has done a subpar job.

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