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I actually think this helps UT more than Memphis. I think keeping the UT hate going helps Memphis in recruiting IMO
Senior Writer, govols247
So predictable to see the memphis bashing that goes on when we lose a bball recruit to them. I never understand it. People ask why a kid would chose that *&%! school where they are nothing but *&*(@$ , and then wonder why we dont get more recruits out of memphis. hmmm. Maybe start acting with a bit of respect and class and it would help, number one. Number two, Memphis is a PART of Tennessee last I checked. I know a lot of people dont like this, but it's a HUGE part of our great and DIVERSE State. Number three, Memphis is a tremendous, vibrant, diverse town. I was born in Nashville, raised in Knoxville, but I happily visit Memphis whenever i get a chance. So it's not shocking to me at all that a kid would want to go there. I hate it that we lost Austin, but it certainly sounds like he did his homework and he obviously believes Memphis was best for him.
MY disappointment comes from kids not wanting to be a part of a new Tennessee basketball tradition. Austin could have been a part of a final four team in Knoxville with Hubbs coming in, which would be historic. That would appeal to me as a kid from Tennessee, that I could be part of the first team in University of Tennessee history to make the final four or, heck, to win it all! I think it's a selling point for us, rather than a detraction.
Why is this only one sided. When is Memphis going to act like THEY are apart of Tennessee? Never understood how it's always TENNESSEE's fault. There are people in Memphis that have always sold out on the state of Tennessee and Tennessee is always getting the blame for it.
Big blow for the staff in recruiting. Alot of time & effort into this individual AND his family!
I will admit it that I had my hopes up on this guy, but I guess that's recruiting for ya. Maybe we can get another guy to fill this void.
I spent a summer in Memphis during my grad school days and i can tell you i never ran across anyone who didnt consider themselves part of Tennessee. It's like saying folks from Nashville who root for Vandy dont act like they are a part of Tennessee. And what do you mean "sold out on the state of Tennessee"? What? By going to another school? Again, I ask you, does this mean an instate athlete who goes to Vandy is selling out? Did Brian Kimbrow "sell out on the state of Tennessee" when he went to Vandy? Perhaps your experiences have been different than mine in Memphis, but let me also ask you this, do you believe that bashing the city of Memphis will gain us a better chance of getting kids from Memphis, or worse? If, as you say, that Memphians dont consider themselves part of Tennessee, dont you and others play right into their mind set by reinforcing what they believe by your comments tearing down the city and its people? Why not build a bridge, extend a hand and wipe out that mindset? Memphis is as much a part of our fair state as is Knoxville, and it is part of what makes our State great. We have three fabulous metropolitan areas in east, west and middle tennessee, each with it's own unique vibe, (not to short change some other great places like Chattanooga, Johnson City, Jackson etc..) and I think it's a rare and exceptional asset for our state which i will ALWAYS be proud of and brag about.
All we need is for the Tigers to come to Neyland and whoop us! Looking back, maybe if the NCAA had given us the death penalty over Kiffie, it would have been a blessing. I know it's two different sports, but dang! I'm tired of being kicked around.
Though not an original Memphian, I live here now after growing up in northwest Tn followed by stints in Knoxville and Nashville. So I think i can speak objectively on the Memphis vs rest of Tennessee.
A couple of the comments on this board about Memphis being a cesspool, etc echo some of the same negative vibes i got about Memphis while living in other parts of the state. To be fair, Memphis does its share to help fuel these negative perceptions (see Herenton Willie, Albert Means scandal, etc).
After moving here against the wishes of family and some friends, I absolutely love it. There is so much character, diversity, and cool things to do here, I see why Memphians simply don't concern themselves with what the rest of the state thinks of it.
It goes both ways. The rest of the state does not think of the Grizzlies as being "Tennessee' s team" anymore than Memphians think they need to get behind a state school over a city one. Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, and Miami are examples of other southern universities that the "city vs state" applies to (though they don't have to be mutually exclusive). Its more prevalent in the northeast where you don't have one state school that dwarfs all others.
Lastly, I don't hear the kind of venom towards Knoxville or Nashville when a Memphis athlete opts for UT or Vandy that i do when Memphis wins out. There is a definite hatred of the color orange but for the most part Memphians tend to cut off said player and move on. They possess a "we don't want you if you don't want us" kind of mentality. Granted Knoxville is like one of the best cities in the world so there is not much to bash :)
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by memphischic 17 months ago
+ 1 Excellent points
Just got the news. Too bad.
I wish the kid well. I think he'll be missing out on something pretty special at TBA the next few years.
First, I was born and raised in Memphis and lived their until I went off to Knoxville. All of you bashing Memphis because of what you've seen on "The First 48" or heard on the news and have never spent more than a few days in Memphis have no idea what you are talking about. Memphis is a great city and the surrounding suburbs are amazing places. Some of the best culture and food anywhere in the south with tons of history. Does it have it's downfalls? Sure. Now go out and find me one major metropolis in the US that doesn't.
Secondly, I may get slammed for this but it is JMHO. I've never read an article on Nichols that had quotes in it that were from anyone other than Mark Nichols. I know they're a close family and all but I can't help but get the feeling that he is one of those dads that truly and genuinely loves his son but that also was probably a decent high school athlete that never turned out to be much more than that and is now trying to live vicariously through his son. He just seems to have enjoyed this recruiting thing way more than Austin himself. He even tweeted or posted somewhere that "WE just committed to Memphis". As if they were a package deal and he is going to be suiting up for the Tigers alongside his son next year. I don't know, I may be the same way one day if my son has an opportunity like this. It just struck me as a bit odd.
And finally, I've had a few hours to digest this and it still really, really sucks. I was as sure of him being a Vol as I am that the sun will rise tomorrow. I know we won't get them all but this one just seemed like a sure thing. But as always, nothing is a guarantee in recruiting until they sign the dotted line. I just wish we were going to have the chance to play them while Hubbs and Nichols are in college.
Anyways, just my 2 cents. Can't wait for Friday night! Go Vols!
I'm speaking on the terms of Memphis sports as a whole. I love Memphis as a city as I've said.
My problem is HS coaches and a lot of people around these kids try to get them to go anywhere but UT. Its who I'm talking about selling out. There's more pull to Alabama and Ole Miss locally than Tennessee. Sports talk radio rips Tennessee every day in Memphis. They celebrate when UT struggles.
So again, why am I at fault for not liking that? My opinion has something to do with recruiting? Come on man
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