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I just recieved a phone call stating that Reece Davis just said we were evenly matched with NC State. So I have a question...
Is our fan base / program so hungry that irrational thought would keep us from being realistic? Yea we are, and this is to be expected, but at the same time could potentially be a major setback for UT. I really don't have an issue with the alleged statement, until we win consistently I expect no one to give UT the benefit of doubt.
My question is: did this win (overpowering from our perspective), potentially set this program up for devistation...if it does not meet the newly desired fan expectations? If UT only wins 8 games this year, I now think there will be a vocal majority calling for a change, when before the NC State game I thought our rabid fans would only erupt at only 7 wins...are we now expecting too much?
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I don't think so for a few reasons.
A. I think most fans realize the value of stability.
B. The season is a journey and not a destination. To me it is less about the number of wins as it is how we play. Last year we looked horrible in a lot of games, I don't expect that to be the case this year.
C. Every team that won has optimistic fans right now, wanting to be good doesn't make UT unique.
D. UGA, UF, Bama, Scar, msu, Missouri, nc state all have a chance of being ranked this year, so at the end of the year, we could have some quality wins without being a 9 win team.
I think the difference here is hope vs. expectations. Watching UT play Friday night made me hopeful that we could possibly dig out nine wins, maybe even 10, because the East to me is up for grabs. But those aren't my expectations.
My expectations are you dispatch of the patsies, which include Vandy and Kentucky and the rest you line up in the season. And the expectations a for every other team are that you play for four quarters.
Speaking for the entire fan base or even a portion of the fan base will be impossible. There are going to be unrealistic fans, realistic fans, fair weather fans, negative fans, etc... etc...
IMO and I'm a realist my expectation of Dooley is he needs to improve over the last 2 years, thats all. And frankly as long as he gets 6 wins I'm ok with him as long as we don't fade in the 2nd half in every SEC game and get slaughtered like we have done the past 2 years.
The Univeristy of Tennessee needs stabilty. We should all know thats what we need. The recruits are even telling us thats what we need REeves-Maybin made some comment about as long as we didn't have some horrible season he was 100% commited to us. Last year Orta Peters switched his commitment because ARK said Dooley wasn't going to be here after 2012. We can't let the other schools negative recruit against us.
After stabilty will come the high value recruits they want to play for us. They like the staff, they like the facilities, they know were a top tier program.
I know 6 is a low number I fully expect and hope to win 7 or 8, but I'm drinking the Dooley Kool-Aid and I feel like given 2 more years he'll have us back where we all be happy.
Best thing to come out of Alabama: I-59 North
7 wins and being competetive in every game, I'm not disappointed. 10 wins with a couple of upsets, I'm not surprised. I don't have unrealistic expectations but I do have high hopes. I wanna go back to Atlanta this year. GO VOLS!
BUTCH IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. GO VOLS!
I'm mostly with you. I need 8 myself to be satisfied with a 9th win coming in a bowl hopefully. But more wouldn't surprise me. Firmly believe we'll beat Fla. Worried about Mizzou with that running qb but I think/hope we'll get it done. And it may be the coolaid talking but I think we'll upset either Ga, Al, or SC. All I know is I'm thrilled with what I've seen up to this point and believe I mostly will be with what I see the rest of the season.
I think winning 5 of 11 games from here on out will not be acceptable. I'm all for stability but 6 wins is not enough with the talent we have. I don't think it will be an issue now and I think we win 7-9 games in the regular season.
I don't normally listen to BaSILLYo on TSR, but I do like to listen on Friday's when "Beano" is on and he stated it pretty well last Friday (and I am sure others have said similar things). He said, "there's a good 8-4 and there's a bad 8-4, and while I can't describe them right now, we'll know what it looks like in December."
I won't like it, but we can lose 4 games and be in every game down to the final second, and I would argue it's a step in the right direction. However, we can go 8-4 and get our doors blown off a few times, and that will be totally unacceptable!
We'll know in December, and to speculate now may be a waste of time and breath.
+1 and love the pic of Dooley at Atlanta. GO VOLS!
I don't think USCjr, UGA, or Florida are too scary right now - we can beat those teams if we play to potential and limit mistakes. Bama, however, is going to take a lot of luck and some big-time breaks if UT is going to stay in that game. We get several of the big games at home this year - which doesnt hurt.
I believe if anyone expections get a little out of hand they need to look back at the cincy game last year we dominated that team and it turned in to a missed bowl game year now can this team be better then last years of course it can but that just let's you know just what one game can do for your team
We beat a mid tier team in a mid tier conference. Anyone thinking the FL game is a W should ask themselves where the "rivalry" is today... it is at 7 L's and counting. No harm in being positive, but being realistic will keep you from opening the glue bottle. That being said, from the heart of Gator country, Go Vols! Go Vols! Go Vols!
NC State is not a mid-tier team. They have an NFL caliber QB and all-American DB and were picked by many to be a dark horse to win the ACC (and still may). UT burned supposedly the best DB in the country twice on long TD pass plays. NCSU has one of the best defensive backfields we will see all year. By no means (particularly after the last 6 yrs or so) do I consider the FL game an automatic win. However, after seeing FL vs BG, I feel a lot better. Also SC, FL, and to an extent, UGA, did not look like Bama (to say the least). I think UT would have to play a near-perfect game to beat Bama and a very, very good game to beat UGA. Besides them, UT is fully capable of beating everyone else on the schedule, barring catastrophic injuries that they had last year to Hunter and Bray. Those injuries are why it fell apart after Cincy last year. Again, not drinking Dool-Aid, but I think some (not necessarily @JaxJeff) are trying to have both ways regarding NC State (e.g. talking how good NCSU is prior to game. Then saying they are not that good after UT beat them - and not allowing for the possibility that UT has grown up a bit and is now pretty good).
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Thats the way I feel! +1
Only time will tell, but everyone was projecting them to contend for the ACC title this year. I hope they do. It only makes our win that much better. I'll be pulling for NC State from here on out.
But it's amazing to me how within the span of a weekend they go from contending for a championship to becoming a mid-tier team. The fact is, and I've said this before, you can not look at the team before and judge it on the team at hand. The team last year that beat Cincy and fell apart pretty much had three good players. Bray, Rogers and Hunter. When Hunter went down it rocked them too much. Then Bray goes down. To compare this team to a team that had a freshman QB playing half of the season and packed with sophomores and freshmen is unfair.
In 1988, the Vols went 5-6. The very next year they went 11-1 and won the SEC conference. I don't remember much about 1989 since I was 14, but I do wonder if there was a lot of publicity then about how much we sucked.
I guess my problem is what do we do if all hell breaks loose and everybody goes down to injuries again like last year? While our depth has improved we're still a couple of injuries away from having no TEs and no ILB. We have some unproven talent at WR if we lose one or two of those guys as well.
The issue I had with all of this "hot seat" talk was no coach could have done anything about last year, but yet all you heard was this negative talk about Dooley. I just feel like somebody should step up and say you know what given the fact that you played 32 freshman in 2 years and lost two key positions win the games your supposed (OK Kentucky hurt us here) and we'll give you 2 more years to build. That way instead of ex-coaches telling people it's unstable, recruits saying it's unstable and the media saying it's unstable Dooley can recruit on a somewhat level playing field and get this thing turned around.
Sorry that was long winded but thats why I'm ok with 6 wins. Looking at the schedule sure we should definately win more than 6 as it stands right now, but IMO this time last year I thought we had the players to beat FL.
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