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If you think he is going to let Dooley drag him down then you are either delusional or not being honest with yourself.
This weeks crowd could be the most important factor in Dooley's future if it is more Bama than Vol fans Dooley will be gone for sure.
Some of you think Hart has something invested in Dooley, but he doesn't and he can cut him loose with no consequences.
...except for buying out his and possibly other staff member's contracts. But other than that, i guess no consequences.
2 Good points. Not just the crowd this weekend though, because we will fill the stadium, we just gotta hope there's not 30K Bammers. But the final 3 home games against inferior teams, what will the crowd be like then, that's also really important.
Other than the substantial buyout and starting the climb from the bottom of the stairs again.
BUTCH IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. GO VOLS!
Al gore did not create the internets
Hamilton gave Dooley the buyout, it sure wasn't Hart.
Oh, I understand that. But Hart will be the one to write the checks for it. So it's not entirely accurate to say no consequences. Just no reflection on him for the hire(or no credit. Can't help it, I'm an optimist)
I agree with hdrizzle and OrangeNCarolina.
And yes, that is a fact. Dave Hart did not hire Derek Dooley. Can't argue that one.
But also, Dave Hart is not stupid, and will do what is best for this program.
This post was edited by DownTheField 18 months ago
1 Corinthians 16:13 Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
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I can think of 8 million consequences right off the bat - five million to Dooley and 3 million to the staff. And with buyouts of other coaches still being paid out, there's no way Hart could afford to pay $5 million a year to a new coach plus buyouts and expect to keep the athletic program out of the red.
Are we not at the bottom now? Sure dies seem like it. This mindset that "change" is going to set us back is the strangest thing I've heard.
40-50,000 empties for the Troy game. There were at least 30,000 empties at the Akron game when we were 2-1. I don't see a surge in attendance in November.
And let's not forget, UT has another situation that will probably add a few $$$ to the tab. The Jennings lawsuit will be as expensive as it will be ugly.
WHY ARE YOU YELLING???
UT "changed" 7 coaches in the off season. Defensively, that set us back. Disagree? And no, I absolutely do not think we're at the bottom now. When a building is being built, those driving by see a lot of work going on for weeks and even months and wonder why they're not seeing the building going up. Then one day they drive by and notice that finally there's some structure starting to develop. And they say to themselves "Those guys have been working for months and we're just now seeing part of the building being erected?" They didn't stop their cars, get out, and walk over to the site. If they had, they would have seen the enormous amount of labor and preparation being put into the foundation, which, if not properly laid, will not support the building for any length of time. Folks, I believe that building will take shape by year 4. The blueprint changes made on D slowed the progress down some, but the engineers knew that longterm, it was the right call. I know that nowadays contracts ain't worth the paper they were printed on, but there's a reason that Dooley signed a 5 year contract. There were a lot of grading, soil preparation, foundation firming up and securing the right subcontractors to be done in order to complete the job. We'll see a finished product within the next year. And it'll be a building you can be proud of. GO VOLS!
Good analogy! I like this one better than watering bamboo... +1
To make your analogy fit this situation the people driving by the site keep driving by for the next 2 years without the building ever being completed. The framework is all there but the building never gets completed because the contractor was not qualified to build such a big building in the first place and the owner must now come in and replace him to get the job completed.
Please quantify your 50% progress assertion? I know I can quantify my reasons for thinking Dooley is not the answer, but I know for a fact you can't quantify your reasons for thinking he is anything but what his record says he is.
Your points are valid. But if Dooley was given a 5 year contract to get the building built and it took 3 years to get the foundation laid, with some blueprint changes, how do we know he can't complete the job within the time constraints of his contract? There was an awful lot of soil contamination he had to dispose of during the process.
Lately, it seems as if Hart is doing a good job dragging himself down without Dooley's help.
Dooley may not be Hart's guy but there is not way UT can afford to get rid of Dooley and his staff. Dooley and company (with the exception of Chaney) will be back in 2013 and probably 2014. The school has to lose some excess financial baggage before they take on an additional load of buyouts.
I'm not happy with how things have went but they are going as most projected. 7-5 at best.
^^^ This +1
I'll be shocked if there isn't more crimson than orange. UT fans will not travel to watch UT lose. The stadium was crimson for Fulmer's last Bama game. I think Dooley is UT's Mike Shula. He has fixed the talent issue but he can't coach.
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