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PMs and UPS was good enough for our grandfathers....
I think we're not so much thin at guard as we are inexperienced. We certainly are going to be relying on some guys to provide depth that were recruited at the tackle position. The recipe for beating Oregon, will stay the same and that standard of shutting down the inside running game and controlling the clock there by limiting our possessions does factor in the two weaknesses you brought up.
I'll take that bet. How about 2 bottles of Yazoo SUE for some Russian River sours?
This post was edited by silver fox 12 months ago
Hello! Here is a pretty good site http://fishduck.com/ that talks about and shows a lot of different types of plays we run on offense and defense. You can see the plays and the players we have been talking about. I had a great time at the UT, hope you enjoy it out here also!
Well, 2 sacks would be a very good bet for you to take, since you gave up what--8 sacks all of last year?
I would request that I get to choose the beer I provide if I lose. Oregon is the microbrewery capital of the US, plus I make my own...
I'm hoping that Helf was calling all of the plays and the times we choked (FGs) it was the Kelly override. That way that nonsense will go to the NFL until we get an accurate kicker.
Sacks may be misleading. Even if their O line dominates, if we are up early they'll have to throw downfield which eventually should yield sacks, even against a great O line.
Sorry to screw up your bet.
My take on the offensive line defensive line match up is both units will do what they do best. We don't necessarily have a knock em out of the park pass rush, but we're not going to be run over by anyone we play this year, and I would extend that to a bowl game against Bama. Big, strong quick, I just don't think you can get leverage against these guys to keep them out of position. They also use a 2 gap scheme that lends more to run stopping than pass rushing.
If you guys are as good as you can be, there probably won't be much of a primary pass rush. I would watch for making any 2 sack bets though, because a rookie QB that is facing this good of a coverage team is liable to hold the ball too long. If Id pick a spot where we can be exposed its going to be our LB's in coverage and in sideline to sideline play. We've got speed but I could easily see a couple of big cut back runs.
We're not LSU up front, but this is the best unit we've ever had. I can say that with confidence, and full knowing that we just lost a top 3 pick.
Can I make requests? I'd be willing to bottle bet anything out of my cellar for some Abyss.
As in the ex Nebraska Qb?
Yes that's our OC
Ya that's him.
Holy crap, I had no idea.
Can't wait to see Mariota run the option.
"When we step on that football field, everyone flips a switch. And it's on..." - Butch Jones
Tenn is really high on their oline for good reason but man I watched their spring game and Worley was plain terrible. I hate to evaluate someone based on a spring game but the guy doesn't look like he will cut it.
The problem with predicting sacks is that most rival fans don't understand how much our offense stresses the other offense to become something they aren't. If we get a lead then Tenn will be running longer routes and that will lead to sacks no matter the oline. Likewise, Oregon blitzes so much and disguises coverage so well. A new qb won't pick this up as well. The 2010 team usually kept the game close and put a stranglehold on teams late. This team just does it right away now.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by bisonducks 12 months ago
Worley certainly didn't set the world on fire at the O&W game, but keep in mind he was throwing to the back end of our depth chart at receiver, and from a severely limited playbook at that. We will have a much better idea how the QB position will play out as we get into practice in the next few weeks.
"I'm like Wes." --Ryan Callahan
That is why I don't like to evaluate during a spring game. One thing you can see though is arm strength and accuracy. It didn't seem to be there.
I like your selection in actresses.
After the game I would love to hear about how loud y'all thought autzen was and a comparison to other stadiums would be nice. Just remeber, it is a very packed 60, 000 fans but very loud. Michigans old coach said autzen was the loudest stadium he has ever been in. You'll be hearing ooooooooooooooooo for a couple days after the game.
Here are some quotes:
This post was edited by 4thandTOUCHDOWN 12 months ago
Loudest game I've ever been at was Neyland for the '98 game against FL...my ears ring just thinking about it.
Moseley said today that frost will call all the plays from the booth
Best sporting event I've ever been to, and probably ever will go to.
Here are my thoughts on the Ducks.... some of it has been mentioned here and some of it might be obvious and some of it might be stuff that other Ducks fans would disagree with, but it's stuff you might want to hear about:
1. The weakest link on our team is kicker. Missed FGs killed us in our last two losses (to USC and Stanford) and because of our inability to reliably kick a 35 year field goal, we've seen some play calling distortion from Chip Kelly. He was aggressive in going for it on fourth down--and I loved him for it--but sometimes it's nice to "take the points" and with our kicker (Alejandro Maldonado) we couldn't reliably do that. Additionally, our kickoffs (which are important for us, given how often we scored) usually were short and resulted in field position that was better than it should have been, given our speed on special teams.
We have a true freshman coming in (Matt Wogan) that has a big leg and who many think might take over the job (although I think there's a good chance they redshirt him and go with Maldonado for his senior year)... but even if he does, relying on a true freshman kicker in a close game is enough to make anyone nervous.
2. Our return game last year was surprisingly ineffectual. We have some guys who can really make plays in DAT and Addison, and we got far fewer big returns than I had expected. While I hope for improvement there, I still consider it to be a weakness of the team.
3. Tempo is critical. Spreading the field is great, but if we kept the same tempo and ran from a pro set, I think we'd still present many of the same problems that we do. Conditioning becomes a huge factor--especially in the second half--and by hurrying up and not making many substitutions we can take advantage of mismatches and/or run the same plays over and over if they're working unless the defense calls timeout.
4. Our team has dominated its play selection with running the ball. Run people over (or around them) and get a lead and then keep running. Many Ducks fans think that the team will strive to be more balanced in terms of passing the ball more. The thinking is that Helfrich is a former QB and that Marcus Mariota is much more skilled passing the ball--so the team will look to pass more. I'm less convinced that the team will make any dramatic change on that front as long as it can keep running opponents into the ground.
5. Our RBs have gotten a lot of credit for the team's success (and they've been very talented), and our offensive line has improved a lot over the last few years, but the commitment that our WRs make to blocking is the reason the team is able to bust so many long runs. Josh Huff has been mentioned in this thread as a guy to watch, and I don't disagree with that, but if the past is any indicator you'll want to watch him as a blocker as much as as a receiver.
6. Our backup QB situation is unsettled. Heaven forbid Mariota gets hurt because it would be a minor miracle if one of the backups could step into his shoes and lead the team to a BCS bowl game. That's not a knock on Rodriguez, who's the likely backup, as a long-term prospect but having a redshirt freshman step in is always a risky proposition. It worked with Mariota but I wouldn't expect it to work two years in a row.
7. Our defensive backfield is really, really good. We have two excellent junior cornerbacks in Ifo Ekpre-Olomu and Terrence Mitchell who are both on the Thorpe watch list as well as the Nagurski watch list, with Dior Mathis and Troy Hill as backups. At safety, Avery Patterson is looking to bounce back from an injury and probably backup to Brian Jackson and Erick Dargan. Younger guys will get sprinkled in, but there are two seniors and five juniors in that bunch, which makes it one of the most experienced units on the team.
Anyway. There are some thoughts. :)
This post was edited by Ed O 12 months ago
Agreed. The key to Oregon getting pressure and sacks will be:
1. The scoreboard, if the Ducks are up they can start pinning their ears back and zone blitzing.
2. Fatigue, if the OLine doesn't gave a lot of depth and have to go against a frah rotation every 4-5 plays, the 3rd & 4th quarters get really tough for the big boys. Not only physically, but the mental pressure of the constant zone blitzes.
Early on you'll see Oregon play a very conservative defense, keeping everything in front and willing to give up 3 play first downs until about their own 30yd line.
The concept is, can you put together a mistake free 10+ play drive? If so, you'll probably score at least 3, but we're willing to bet over the course of the game our O will score more often.
Really appreciate the hospitality you guys have shown in this thread. Hope UT gets back to the top of the SEC ASAP!
Good stuff fellas
This post was edited by BoroVol32 12 months ago
DAT will be on special teams returning kicks and punts, no?
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