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Is Gruden a bigger name than Saban when he came from the dolphins? I'd love to hear your opinions in this.
I believe so, but a lot of that comes from ESPN endorsing him with "Gruden's QB Camp," and him being the announcer on Monday night football.
IF Gruden comes, it would be clash of the titans.
I'd be most interested in two things IF Gruden came:
1) Would Gruden reduce the complexity of his offense? I remember reading that his version of the west coast was one of the densest and most complex. To me, that doesn't bode well for 20 year olds.
2) Who would he bring in for DC? There may not be a more important question.
Randy Shannon! Jk...
Absolutely, rule 1 for coaching is doing what your players can do, in the NFL he just always had the option to have it much more complex because of the veteran QB
Who would Gruden bring in as a DC?
I'm not one to dig rumor holes, but I think that's an interesting question nonetheless. At least one that is fun to think about and discuss.
I smell a new post.
~The Volunteer in Brooklyn~
Yes, not even close. Super Bowl winner, co-host of MNF, guy who the Eagles and others covet v. 1 National Title and a mediocre at best NFL career
Well, 3 National Titles, actually (LSU 1, Bama 2). But, hell yea, far more notable than Saban. GBO.
He was saying when he came to Bama.
Gruden is a bigger name. There are 6 letters in "gruden" and only 5 letters in " saban"
Well he ended his NFL days with none other than our favorite DC - Monte Kiffin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG I can't even believe I knew that stupid bit of useless trivia.
NO... Saban was already a proven coach at the college level. Gruden has proven nothing at the college level.
a bigger name, yes. more proven / more of a sure thing, no.
as for the offense, he would probably run something between what he used to run and oregon's O as he spent some time with kelly picking his brain - seems to have a fascination for the spread, particularly their variety of it.
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Saban also proved he couldn't hack it in the NFL, whereas Gruden had a winning % similar to the Tuna while coaching for one of the cheapest franchises in the NFL. Saban would grovel at Grudens feet at the end of the day.
Not a chance. Saban had already won SEC championships and a National Championship at the college level. Gruden, although he has a Super Bowl ring, did it one year after Dungy with a good roster already in place. All that to be said, he's accomplished nothing on the NCAA level, which is ultimately different than the NFL.
This post was edited by ChrisUT 17 months ago
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.
No Dude, it's the same.
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1. Good coaches do whatever they have to do in order to win. He's a good coach.
2. TOS posters are toying with the idea of Ron Zook being DC. He was on staff at Tennessee when Gruden was a GA. Great recruiter and former NFL DC. I think he would be a very realisic DC candidate and I think Randy Shannon would be also. Zook doesn't have a job and Shannon is coaching LBs at TCU.. I'm sure Patterson will try to bring Shannon with him to Arkansas, but if you're Shannon who would you rather coach for? Another big name who is a realisitc possibility is Raheem Morris. He coached under Gruden at Tampa Bay and eventually became their HC. Not sure whow well he'd recruit, but he is black and the reality is that it helps. Right now, he's coaching DBs for the Redskins.
If we get Gruden, I think the most likely DC would be Zook, Shannon, or Morris.
This post was edited by volfan28 17 months ago
He is a bigger name, but Saban is more respected in the college ranks being as Gruden hasn't spent a lot of time there himself. It's college respect vs. NFL respect.
I'd like to think Gruden is smart enough to tailor his offense to the personnel...at least until he's recruited the players that he thinks fits his own system.
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