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I wrote the below post 9 days ago. Now that Gruden, Stoops, Fisher, Gundy and Strong art off the board, I really hope people will take a quick step back and consider Tressel on the merits. The guy has the best credentials out there and would probably run the cleanest program in the country at this point. We want to win. We is a winner. We're both tainted at this point and don't want any NCAA trouble. Read the below written 9 days ago and think about it:
As I keep reading all the wish lists, in my opinion, there are really only 2 names on everyone's list that have the credentials for the job: Jon Gruden, because of his NFL pedigree and celebrity status; and Bob Stoops, because of his overall body of work at Oklahoma and Florida. An honest assessment of the other candidates exposes the fact that none of them have done enough for anyone to say that they can recruit and coach a winner in the SEC; that they are a sure thing. And in my opinion, we need a sure thing. Our football program has been turned so upside down by the untimely (and in my opinion, disgraceful) demise of Fulmer, followed by the utter ridiculousness of the whole Kiffin affair and the ineptitude of Dooley (both as a recruiter--am I really the only one who's noticed that our DBs are just plain slow?--and a strategist). And the gap between UT and our competition seems to be widening each year. If we don't hire a sure thing, we run the real risk of being an also-ran for years to come.
The problem with Gruden and Stoops is that each would appear to be a long-shot for UT.
Which raises the question: why not give Jim Tressel a hard look? His credentials are unparalleled: a winning percentage of .810 (not counting the 10 wins taken away for 2010); 6 Big Ten championships (not counting the one taken away for 2010); seven BCS bowl appearances and a 4-3 record; three National Championship games and one Title; great recruiting ties to talent-rich Ohio; numerous former players drafted in the first round and playing successfully in the NFL; and beating OSU's arch rival, Michigan, like drum year in and year out.
The obvious, easy answer is that he has baggage because of his NCAA sanctions. But easy answers are not always right answers.
First of all, to be clear, the show cause order doesn't prevent him from being hired; it provides that if he is hired by another school, in his first year he can't coach the first 5 games and in a bowl (if the team qualifies). This would not seem to be insurmountable.
Second, there seems to be concern that hiring Tressel would invite NCAA scrutiny on a going-forward basis. So what? My assumption is that since Kiffin's departure, we've been running a clean program and that Tressel has learned his lesson--what a price he has already paid to fall as far and as hard as he did. Let the NCAA look; I believe that we have been and will continue to be a clean program. And I can't believe Tressel would take any chances if given another opportunity.
Third (and perhaps most importantly), lets take a careful look at Tressel's NCAA "sins." As I understand it, he discovered that some of his players had received improper benefits--tattoos exchanged for autographed jerseys--and didn't turn them in, and then tried to cover-up when an inquiry was launched. Is this really unethical and immoral? These kids are forced by NFL rules to play football for free for 3 years; they're surrounded by the wealth and riches of a major college football program and its fans; they are made into celebrities, but aren't allowed to realize the benefits of their status; and lets not forget--they're kids and they are going to screw up (who out there can honestly say that they would have had the strength to live as hermit monks in the middle of all that). I'm not arguing that Tressel didn't break the rules; he obviously did. What I'm saying is I can certainly understand a coach deciding to try to protect his kids and his team from punishment for doing something stupid like getting a tattoo in exchange for a signed jersey.
At the bottom line, given UT's need for a sure thing, and given Tressel's credentials that unquestionably make him the closest thing there is out there to a sure thing, shouldn't he at the very least be given serious consideration? Why not interview him and make decision based on direct personal contact about his ethics, morals and judgment? If we don't, aren't we missing a potentially great opportunity to hire a proven winner and aren't we denying him a shot at a second chance?
The stakes are high. I'm not saying we have to hire him. I'm just saying he should get a careful look and that a decision should be made on the merits.
Let the debate begin...
This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by tel614 19 months ago
The easy answer is the right answer in this situation! Never going to happen- he is in trouble and we are on probation- not a good combo. It would be like giving the middle finger to the NCAA. They would set up shop in Knoxville.
This post was edited by OrangeVol79 20 months ago
I agree with you. I'm a fan of Tressel. You can't ignore his resume. He didn't do anything worse than what Kiffin does or even Chizik at Auburn.
It was more than free tattoos
He has been associated with trouble at two universities, Ohio State and Youngstown St. Everybody calls this hire as critical. Tressel could bury us if we go through sanctions. No we do not need that. This hire is critical and Tressel shouldn't even be a thought. This is not the time to bring a rogue winner.
dont think this can happen. tressel's coaching ability, like petrino, is top notch. but at this time we can't afford to be associated with those type individuals b/c of previously stated allegations. i think both will have decent success at their next endeavors, just not with this hire and this university.
You'd really hire a coach who could not coach for half his first season? What's the use? That would be like hiring a doctor you can't see half the time you get sick.
According to the article you attached, a couple of guys got $200 from a booster and the same booster overpaid for a summer job. I'm sorry but that just doesn't seem to sound all that horrific to me; and it certainly doesn't sound like something that probably isn't happening every day across the country.
I've got 3 words for you: think long term.
I got two - death penalty
Tressel would be my top target including Gruden if NCAA issues could be resolved......
I would advocate keeping Chaney, let him coach first 5 and then integrate JT on game day.
HE IS A PROVEN WINNER and he resurrected OSU.
You keep bringing up Tressel and at the same time ignoring or flippantly dismissing his baggage and it's affect on our program. That's not long term thinking that's suicidal. I have three words for you cheat, lie, cover-up. You know Hart did use one word in his announcement of Dooley's firing...INTEGRITY.
I think Tressel could be a good hire. He is obviously a proven winner. I agree with tel614 in that the issues at OSU weren't that severe. He did address the issues with suspensions when they were discovered, except for the tattoes. I am sure he made life hard for those players when he found out, but what was he suppose to do, tell them to return the free products? I don't blame him for not self-reporting that issue (again the tattoes were already done), but he did show a lack of good judgement in the attempted cover-up. It would be different if it was discovered that he promoted these kinds of things as a perk for attending the school, but that isn't the case. In my opinion he has done his time.
As far as the five game suspension is concerned, small price to pay and realistically next year won't be a championship year anyway. If we don't get Gruden, I say make Tressel the coach and deal with the issue. The program is clean and he would ensure it stayed that way after the OSU incidents. I really believe the future could be great on Rocky Top!
Trample the Weak-Hurdle the Dead
I don't think he will get concideration, but IMO he would be a better option than many of the others out there.
Guys, its time to take a (quick) step back and reconsider. We're a once great,but now tainted program desperate to return to its winning ways. Tressel is a great, but tainted coach, who probably wouldn't tip the milkman now for fear of it violating the rules.
Put on the big boy pants.
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