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This is absolutely terrible. I hate to see the server get fired over this, and since I'm a server myself, this whole situation makes me furious. Tip out your servers people! We work really hard. We only make 2.13 an hour and basically depend on our tips to live. If you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be eating out.
Receipt ; Applebee's Remember that one about the pastor who walked into an Applebee's and left an insulting note on her check, which led to a shitshow in which...
Bizarre story! I always give 20% even is the service is bad, I give more when he service is good.
That's a real shame, absolutely terrible. I'm not a server but I work at a fast food style BBQ restaurant, and I work on the window and talk to customers all the time, run deliveries, and cater so I interact with people and understand some of the feelings that servers can have and what kind of people they can deal with. Personally I try to give a good sized tip every time I eat out unless the server is absolutely terrible (which is very rare). You guys bust your rear end and deserve a good tip. It goes back to exactly what you said don't eat out if you can't afford to tip.
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What bugs me is that this pastor actually wrote that on the receipt, then complained that she was "embarrassed" when it went viral. WHY IN **** DID SHE WRITE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE??? I won't even get into the "justification" she wrote for stiffing the mandatory gratuity (party of 20+), because that was sickening...
Honestly, one of the worst tippers around is Coach Fulmer. During his tenure, he was known to stiff the servers at the Texas Roadhouse he co-owns in Maryville & was "appalled" that my father on law wouldn't do some remodeling work for free. When my f.i.l. Gave him the bill, both Fulmer & wife asked him "don't you know who I am? You should just give this to us no charge."
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My thoughts exactly, tntoak. That pastor should be ashamed of herself. This whole situation would have never happened if the woman would have thanked the server and went on her way. I won't even get started on the reason she gave because we don't discuss religion on here. But it just makes me sick.
I've heard similar things about Fulmer and his wife...not like he couldn't afford to leave a decent tip or pay for his own mean. By contrast, I've heard Peyton is one of the more generous tippers around....probably shouldn't be surprised about that.
I've done some business off and on with Fulmer for several years now. I find him to be quite fair, not overly demanding and a good person to do business with. The two posts above are in conflict with the guy I know.
Btw the way i heard this story was that the server is not the one who got fired... it was a fellow server who took the pic and posted it. Seems very justifiable to me..either way. You just dont embarrass your customers.
Not knowing the whole story I can only say this. Almost every chain in the country has an 18% gratuity for groups of 8+ due to the time it takes to manage a larger party. It also means the server has less tables to work. That cuts in to their tips. I can read into the note on the receipt 2 ways. Neither way is what I would call "acceptable behavior".
I think the note written was in poor taste and childish. Everyone knows that large parties have automatic tips in that (18%) ballpark. If the pastor didn't want to pay it, she should've stayed home, or left when she read that on the menu. She should've never written the snide and childish comment if she didn't want people to find out about it and call her on it.
The server (or whoever took the pic and posted it), on the other hand, had no right to violate the company policy without expecting some possible retribution. That's just how it is - if you agree to a policy as a part of your employment and then willfully disregard/violate it, then you run the risk of losing your job.
But, TNoak, the pastor didn't 'stiff' the server. The 18% was automatic and the $0 that was shown on the receipt would have just been something in addition to the mandatory 18%. A small point perhaps, but still significant.
Oh I agree that neither behavior was acceptable. Most restaurant establishments will have a social media policy that covers a broad range of activities. The other server really should have known better. I've taken pics of great tips or terrible stiffs I have gotten but I would never post it on twitter or Facebook. As far as gratuity goes, any establishment that cares about their employees should have gratuity. Unfortunately some have moved away from it in recent years. Apparently servers quit working when they have a guaranteed tip, which I think is complete BS. Anyway, it's kinda hard to believe Fulmer was a crappy tipper
A bit of background I guess, posts like this are rather common. More common is a straight up 0% tip because the waiters are working on a Sunday (small parties no automatic 18%). I've seen numerous posts like this one and whoever took the pic is almost always fired. If the person who took this pic didn't know this then it is unfortunate. Usually it's someone who is about to quit anyways.
Either way, that pastor/preacher/witch doctor is a pos.
Yes, the 18% was automatically added so the server still got paid. A lot people seemed to forget that. You still get the option of leaving more, and a lot of people will if the service is good. Getting really bad service is pretty rare, unless the server is just terrible.
A lot of time, the server is unfairly punished because of a terrible performance by the kitchen. I appreciate the server who explains during an unusual delay what is going on. This weekend, I got a free round of craft beers from a server who told me the kitchen was slammed and was also training a new cook.
He got much bigger tip than my usual 20 percent, by the way, even though we were in the establishment much longer than usual because of the slow kitchen.
I wish a lot more people thought like you! I'm sure the free beer was a plus lol.
Well pastors are normal people like you and I. Sometimes they have bad days just as you and I and do something they regret. This was no doubt in poor taste, but your idea of the pastor/preacher being compared to a witch doctor and a *** is completely tasteless and unacceptable.
Plus 1, it's amazing what a little communication and extra customer service will do. I'm the way way...if the server is hustling and seems to care about what he/she is doing, they get more than the std. 15% from me. If they don't, they get less....pretty simple concept.
Not me, if the service isn't good, I don't reward the server.
If you look at the receipt, the pastor crossed out the 18% gratuity and just paid for the food and beverages. That was what the note was referring to. So yes, the server DID get stiffed on the tip...
Not tipping or under tipping is shameful. I teach the youth in our church the value of proper tipping. The pastor in this story should know better. The server gets 18% because that is what is customarily requested. If this pastor feels guilty about giving God less than 18%, then she should give Him more...not the server less. (Render to Caesar that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's).
It is obvious that if you act this way that it destroys your witness and your message. Any criticism this pastor gets is warranted. She needs to ask for forgiveness and ask Applebee's to give the co-worker their job back. JMO
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From my experience as a food delivery guy people either tip really well or not at all. You'd be surprised at how many people expect you to do something for nothing cause that's your job. If all jobs were based on tips people would have a different outlook
Tntoak, you can't just cross out a gratuity like that and still expect to not pay it. I wouldn't take it off, no matter how much she complains. If she doesn't want to tip, I'm sure there's a McDonalds right down the road. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but I've worked in a restaurant for 5 years now.
Your right about the name calling. That is not needed. But I disagree w the rest. Someone in a position such as the pastor does have more responsibility and should manage how she acts all the time. Because of her position and title, many people look to her for guidance and such. Just like a movie star or a famous athlete, she too has more responsibilities than you or I would have to worry about. My opinion tho. VFL!!
Great post!+1 agreed
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