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Crazy that he and Strasburg were on the same limitations. Way to go Braves
His stuff is different but his style reminds me of Maddox. He has a long way to go to actually be a Maddox but he has many of the same tools.
IMHO, the Braves did not plan this.. It happened to happen this way and they are looking for good PR by telling people this was the "plan".. They didn't put Medlen in the rotation because they trusted Delgado and thought Medlen could help in the pen. So, while on the outside they look smart. It wasn't something they had come out and said during spring training.
Agreed. It definitely wasn't their plan to begin with, because he was competing for a job in spring training. Just so happened that he got bumped up to the rotation because Delgado was struggling. Delgado can still be a good starter, just needs a little seasoning, I think. But now, they can say, "yeah this was our plan all along", and who are we to say otherwise, because right now, it's working pretty damn good. Good for Medlen, the kid just knows how to pitch.
Says The Wizard of Oz!
I have heard the talking heads say it was the plan and how much smarter they were than the Nationals but I'm not sure anyone with the Braves has. I could be wrong but I think the Braves are letting said 'talking heads' carry their water for them.
I don't are how it happened I'm starting to get alot of confidence with this team !! The braves will go deep in the playoffs playing like this!!
Not trying to be a smart... but you do know you have an edit button?
Boomer and Bleedorange are right. The Braves lucked into this situation. I was screaming for Medlin to start from Day One, but Fredi was too enamored with his ability to burn innings as a middle reliever.
His record is amazing. He has 9 wins and has only been a starter for a little over a month. Tnbear talks about Maddox, but the way Medlin has pitched since he went into the rotation is as good as Mad Dog at his best. Plus, he can go 8 or 9 anytime you want him to, which wasn't always the case with Maddox.
All they need to worry about now is making sure he is the starter in the wild card game and things might just start lining up their way.
Yeah I don't know why I didn't use it lol
I agree he has been like Maddux and that's why I made the comparison but he needs to do it for years to be a Maddux. I have to disagree about Maddux and the number of innings he pitched. Over his 11 years with the Braves he averaged 7.65 innings per start with an average of 33 starts per year. For his entire career he averaged 34 starts per year and 6.74 innings per start and this includes the last 4 or five years when he was not what he had been. Areas where I think you can compare are mental toughness, mechanics, pitch placement, understanding how to pitch, planning and executing his game plan. I give Medlin the edge on velocity. Medlin and what he has and is accomplishing is awesome but we need to see how he does in the future.
Dude Maddux always went deep into the games. He was pretty much guaranteed to go 6 or 7 innings every time he pitched. Medlen reminds me alot of Maddux in that he's really good at changing speeds and painting both corners of the strike zone. The thing that made Maddux so great is that he was able to generate consistent success, and for 5 or 6 years there, consistent dominance, throughout his entire career. Let's see if Medlen can do that.
As far as the rotation goes for the playoffs, yeah Medlen definitely should start the wild card game. Then hopefully, assuming he wins, we can start Hudson in game 1, Minor in game 2, and bring Medlen back around for game 3 or game 4.
I would start Mahlom instead of mike minor and not to knock minor but Mahlom has been dominant
Not a flame but I would not call Maholm dominant. He's done well for sure but Minor also seems to be getting it together at a good time.
Only two of Maholm's last six starts have been quality starts. He pitched well Tuesday night, but he hasn't been nearly as consistent lately as Medlen or even Minor, who has six quality starts in his last eight appearances.
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I never thought I would appreciate a Cardinals fan for supporting my point of view. Damn, I think I'll take a shower .
Ha! I may be a Cardinals fan, but I'm also just a baseball fan in general. I enjoy discussing almost any team in the league, especially since I keep an eye on everybody for fantasy-league purposes.
I don't do fantasy league's but I do appreciate good baseball...that's why I hate LaRussa so much
No argument with me about Maddux longterm. He's my favorite pitcher of all time, so I would not be dissing him! I'm just saying that if you look at this stretch of work by Medlin, (a little over a month and a half) the numbers are as good or better as Greg in his prime:
Medlin is now 8-0 with a 0.76 ERA as a starter. That is unworldly.
What I was thinking of were during his last couple of years with the Braves, Maddux struggled to go deep in games. Medlin can apparently throw a complete game anytime he wants and usually has a shutout or 1 run given up when he's through.
Can't argue with what you say.
Yeah, during his last few years, 5 was about all he could go. But during his prime, man he was very efficient. A common stat line for him was something like this: 7 to 8 innings, 85 pitches, 7 to 8 Ks, maybe 1 walk. He would do that game in and game out. That consistency is what makes him a first ballot hall of famer.
Agreed. Maholm hasn't been all that great, but he does eat innings. I'd put Maholm out there before I'd put Hanson. Minor really seems to be finding his groove. He's from my neck of the woods, so I always enjoy watching him pitch and really like seeing him have success. He can be a big time pitcher when he puts it all together on a consistent basis.
Minor is the guy who never gets any runs to work with. Somebody always seems to have that problem every year and this year, Minor is the guy. He would have an excellent record if there had been any run support whatsoever when he pitches.
Agree that at this point, Hanson would not be in my postseason rotation. Medlen, Minor, Hudson and then Maholm would be my rotation, and probably just the top three.
How crazy is it that the Braves' rotation is so deep you can make an argument for Tommy Hanson not being in the postseason rotation? Many thought he would be the Braves' ace or No. 2 starter by now.
Very true. And I have no idea what's wrong with him. Maybe just a dead arm. A power pitcher who can't get it over 88 mph is a problem.
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