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I'll prolly just jump
Sounds like you are already in position. Please step back from the edge. If things don't go well in February we'll jump together.
if we miss we miss.. we will be alright.. we are still tenn and we will always be big orange.. if we miss we move on and we fight for the next group..
I like your optimism, but the Tennessee we've become is a program coming off 3 consecutive losing seasons. We arent a hot destination anymore and it's driving me mad.
honestly the past administration is why we are not as hot a destination. I wont jump off until next year around this time if we are still doing poorly recruiting.. im going full butch here and giving him a full year on the recruiting trail before i jump.. i would love it if you would wait with me..
Then Tennessee will have the makings of the recruiting class I figured they would.
It would be more stunning to me if Tennessee got any of those guys.
Ok... I'm stepping off the ledge.
Ya know.. eventually a team is gonna line up against Bama and run the ball down their throats. It's been a while since that has happened but it will happen again and who better to do it that Tennessee? We will have the best OL in the country next year (one of the best in school history) and a pretty darn good running back with or without D Green. Neal is stronger and faster. When recruits see us roll the tide, the game will change.
I can't read the VIP posts ITT
This is my thought as well. I'm trying to lower my expectations so maybe, just maybe, we'll have a positive recruiting surprise.
If we miss out on all those guys, then we fill the spots with kids who want to be Vols
But what is going to change next year? Right now, we have the excitement and "buzz" of a new hire, and there is still the unknown of how well CBJ will do in the SEC, which he can actually use to his benefit at the moment, just as Dooley did his first recruiting class. Once people saw the product on the field, though, the luster wore off. Im afraid the same will happen to CBJ unless he has success on the field in the fall and, unfortunately, that's going to be a tough ask looking at our schedule and our roster next year. So, crazy as it sounds, i really believe THIS year is the best shot we may have at a good class while there is still energy and Butch can sell recruits on "4 conference championships in 6 years".. Once he develops a track record in the SEC, though, especially if it's a bad one, that sellilng point loses its force.
Recruiting at this level isn't something you can expect to do in a month or six weeks. You have to establish relationships and Jones hasn't had time to do that with the top quality kids Tennessee is chasing. Might he get a couple of them? Heck, yes. But you can't realistically expect him to sign a top-tier SEC class with the time he has left and the guys who were already committed.
Next year, provided he has coached the roster up and earned a bowl bid, the recruiting gains will come. You can't snap your fingers and recruit in the SEC.
Unless you're Jon Gruden ok bye
I refuse to listen to this thing you call "logic"
Right! Football rock stars may be able to snap their fingers. Mere mortals can't.
we are going to have to agree to disagree on that point. I actually think you can recruit and land a top 15 class in the time that CBJ and his staff has. It's been done before and it will be done again this year probably by Malzahn and his staff and perhaps other new hires. Dooley did it in his first year coming from La.Tech. I really do believe CBJ has an advantage at this point because there is a chance his resume may never look better to recruits than it looks right now. And I think too much is made of "developing relationships" in recruiting. These are 18 year old kids who flip constantly depending on the way the wind blows. Look at last year. Otha Peters and Dalton Santos flip at the last minute after being committed to us for months. So much for the "relationships" we had built with them. UT builds it's own "relationship" with recruits because of our stature and facilities and name recognition. All we need is a good coach who recruits like, recognize and who can sell the program. And it's not like Butch Jones and his staff were just dropped on the planet. Thigpen and Martinez have been around the SEC for years. Jones has been coaching at a BCS school in the heart of the midwest where he has gotten a lot of exposure. So it's not as if no one knows who he is, and he has had no prior contact with any of these kids. Certainly he has a ton more name recogniation and career highlights than CDD did when he came in and got in some really elite talent in about 3 weeks time.
It can be done. But more importantly, in our current situation, it must be done.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by frostyvol 15 months ago
All the speculation of good, bad, high,low rankings in the recruiting this year is really not gonna tell the story. It is no doubt the talent we retained is better than what Cincy had, and has already tasted the SEC. If CBJ & Staff bring in comparable recruits, and he can coach them up, then that will tell the biggest story. It is possible that they turn a roster full of 3 * players into a 4-5* roster by upcoaching, we can be as competitive as anybody. Also, with the past 3 seasons we've had, are most of the teams (SEC especially) really gonna put much thought into how good we are gonna be? Probably not. They will look at the recruiting rankings, and our previous success or lack there of, and and say ahhh, this won't be much of a fight. So the potential for us to be successful will lie with the element of surprise or the unknown factors this staff will bring to the table, as well as recruits that possibly slid in under the radar. Might not be the case, but I have seen it before.....powerhouse team has 3+ bad seasons, full of 3 kinds of h*** , and they get written off as low level competition.. New exciting staff comes in, does the best they can with recruiting, but doesn't land the big fish the past has afforded them. Come in and make huge statement by being a contender in their league and division, as well as nationally. Is this what will happen????? Maybe, maybe not! BUT.....what's to say it isn't a realistic possibility? IMHO we could be the sleeper team that shakes things up this season!!!!!! IMHO
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