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I am starting to think that UT may never get back. I just want something positive to happen for my beloved vols. I just can.t understand with our fan base, facilities,and stadium why we can't get one big Tim prospect to come here.
Yeah, you're definitely going to regret posting this topic. It's irrational to say UT is never going to be back based off of 1 prospect who chose one of the only programs who can rival UT in history and tradition, not to mention being in a better overall situation than UT is.
If you haven't seen rays of hope coming from this coaching staff, I'm not sure you're looking hard enough. Just you wait until NSD. Coach Jones will definitely have the nation talking. CBJ has injected some much needed hope and excitement into this program that you just haven't received yet. I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time until you believe though.
i used to think they couldnt ever get back at least with how its been but ive learned watching hockey being a blackhawk fan we sucked for years and now we are a top team so sometimes you just need to wait. i believe butch jones will be the man to get us back.
I am going to give u a plus 1 because a lot of people are going to down vote you for just speaking your concern.
Who is Big Tim?
"Give him six" "We don't give a damn about the whole state of Alabama" "Grit N Grind"
losing record 3 of last 4 years. 4th head coach in last 6 years.
getting big time recruits is going to be very difficult with the above.
program needs to pull out a huge win to jump start interest from elite recruits. Beat a top 10 team.. something like that or hire a staff of elite recruiters which this staff is not made up of elite recruiters.
Lets see how it plays out Hickey. We may not do too bad in the next couple of weeks. Green was lean Michigan the entire time and this current staff only had a few weeks to take a run at him. With all that said I understand your concern. +1
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by AldermanAl 15 months ago
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Welcome, Chitown! Happy to see you posting on the board.
Drop by more often.
Your team. All the time.
Edit: I quoted the wrong poster. My apologies.
Here comes some wisdom, brace yourself.
LWS is right. The last 4 yrs have put our program in a bad place. You don't recover from that over night. It takes time. The question for me is, are we on the right track? What is the right track? Personally, I think we need to put ourselves in position to win 7 or 8 g/yr consistently. From there, our tradition and facilities will be enough to pull in elite recruits. We can win 7 or 8 g/yr without elite talent. Look at MSU and Vandy. What do they have that we don't? Stability. They have an established system on both sides of the ball and that familiarity is why they are where they are. Are we on the road to stability? Yes. Our staff has great chemistry, and the core has been together for a while. I don't expect that to change. Not only that, the system they are installing is proven on both sides of the ball. In yr 3, UT will be a shoe-in 8 wins, maybe more, depending on recruiting. Our tradition and facilities will take over from there. Keep your head up.
This post was edited by volfan28 15 months ago
All true. Maybe they will become that but other than hard work we are still waiting for results.
+1 just because you'll get griped at for not pumping 100% sunshine.
I posed the thought that UT was not as appealing as it was during the 90's during the coaching search. That was met with just a tad of animosity. Don't hesitate to post your thoughts. Your concern is legit.
Too many of our fans don't have the patience to wait three more years for 7-8 wins a year. They will insist Jones be run off if he doesn't win quickly. And if that happens, it will set us back even further.
Patience is not one of my virtues. Fortunately, optimism is. And I'm counting on that to help me get through these lean times until the good times roll back around. I'm certainly not ready to proclaim Butch as the second coming of the General. But I do think, based on what I've seen thus far, that he and this coaching staff are a breath of fresh air in Knoxville. Time will tell and I sincerely hope that riseToTheTop becomes reality. GO VOLS!
BUTCH IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. GO VOLS!
I'm cautiously optimistic. I understand better than most how tough it is to rebuild a program and how far we still have to go. Too many of our fans don't get it. They want wins, a lot of them, and they want them now.
I just hope Butch can get us to a bowl next year. If he can pull it off, it should jump start recruiting and get us going --- slowly, but surely -- in the right direction.
I know that ultimately the product Butch puts on the field will determine his success. But since his arrival, virtually everything he's done has revived interest in the program. +1 Rockytop GO VOLS!
We are going to get it done on NSD. The law of averages say that you can only be in these kids top 3's so much without one of them picking you.
5-star from Harlem, NY- runs a 4.34 40 with a 42-inch TV under his arm!
wow dude must be really tall or very long arms!
Sign him up
Perhaps this is irrational of me.....but i kept saying yr 3 of the Dooley era would be the one. I can't do that again. If I have to wait until 2015 to get to 8 wins I'm going to be really mad. We should win-8 by yr 2 and 9-10 consistently after that
I think what volfan is saying is 7-8 games per year consistently. I think we can win at least 7 games year one, 8 or so year 2 and at the very least 8 by year 3. That will get us to bowl games, and if we can win a couple of those, we will be set. Just look what winning some games has done for Vandy. Just the fact that we are in the top 3 with these elite guys is really an accomplishment. If you were an elite recruit, would you go to a team with a losing record 3 years in a row? Especially, when other top tier programs that are winning are begging you to come there? Even if we miss on all the other elite targets, we have enough talent to get to bowl games. Once we do that, things will really start to improve. And we may actually be able to close the deal on one or two of these guys on NSD. If that happens, it's just icing on the cake.
stability is a huge key to generating some interest. its easy for rival coaches to point out the instability at Tennessee and easy for recruits to question in their minds, will Jones be here in 4 years? they are getting that constantly in my opinion. it is valid point...
the next two years are going to be tough on the field, very tough. Can the adminstration and the fans be patient?
I wanted to followup your excellent summary - we have lots of people saying we don't have an elite recruiting staff. Volfan28 mentioned chemistry - CBJ has that already, Dooley didn't years one and three for sure. That makes a huge difference in the W/L column and in team chemistry - the results will be positive press (TN can use that), and less ammo for other coaches. This will help recruiting - it is a circle. I really think you will see gigantic strides this year - CJB can coach, and next year's class should be top 10. I also don't think this years class is a trainwreck - NSD will be ok.
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