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  • georgiavol said...

    Although I am quite disappointed with our football performance the past few years, I would like to thank coach Dooley for his dedication and endless hours of hard work under very difficult circumstances. I would hope that everyone will allow him and his family to leave with dignity. I know that he has young children and I pray that the Tennessee family will not say anymore awful things that will hurt those children. I'm excited about a new beginning but at the same time I'm saddened that coach Dooley didn't win some games. Coach Dooley, thank you for your integrity and God bless you and your family.

    I agree totally. Thanks +1

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    volsr4me

  • georgiavol said...

    Although I am quite disappointed with our football performance the past few years, I would like to thank coach Dooley for his dedication and endless hours of hard work under very difficult circumstances. I would hope that everyone will allow him and his family to leave with dignity. I know that he has young children and I pray that the Tennessee family will not say anymore awful things that will hurt those children. I'm excited about a new beginning but at the same time I'm saddened that coach Dooley didn't win some games. Coach Dooley, thank you for your integrity and God bless you and your family.

    I agree with this 100%. I am actually kind of sad he was not able to work out. Great guy, honest, and did things the right way and did not and would not ever embarrass the University like others have recently. I really really like the guy and wanted it to work out, and yeah i was still in his corner until the decision to play for OT, and then the loss. Although, the fake FG was brilliant. Too bad, very very intelligent man, maybe this was just an insurmountable task getting our program overhauled. However any may feel about him as a coach, you cannot argue that he left this program in much better shape than he found it.

    poundtherock

  • He is leaving a better roster than he started with and he kept character related issues to a minimum on the team. Such a shame. Really should have picked up some big wins this year.

    It will be interesting to see where he ends up. His HC record is not good. Maybe AD of a small school again. Never was a coordinator. Going to be a strange career shift. HC at a name program to ???

    SRDC Vol

  • I don't like the thought of Cut and Tommy either, but holy smokes we don't need James Franklin. I have no appetite left for an up and coming guy. If we spend bigger on the front end with a proven winner we won't be spending money as the guy walks out the door. If we elect to save money this time around, I guess there's a good chance we'll have to be content with how it's come to be lately: watch our team continue to be mediocre and root for Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, and So Car.

    There's risk in every hire, but the odds are more likely that an up and coming coach is less likely to succeed. Up and coming Bryan Kellys and Urban Meyers are few and far between out there. By the time those guys reached Notre Dame and Florida, they were already proven winners. James Franklin I'm sure is a good coach in a lot of ways, and hell the same can be said about Dooley, but Franklin hasn't proven anything of much substance yet. We've proven that just because a guy can recruit doesn't mean he can win the big games. I can't see this fan base enduring another experimental attempt to save from having to pay the big money.

    InVols

  • Amen brother! Look at the state of UT football before Dooley got here. His successor will inherit a sound football team and unlike Dooley, will be hailed as a brilliant coach because of '13 team's success.
    Think about it...we owe the entire Dooley family a lot of gratitude.

    Beach Vol

  • Beach Vol said...

    Amen brother! Look at the state of UT football before Dooley got here. His successor will inherit a sound football team and unlike Dooley, will be hailed as a brilliant coach because of '13 team's success. Think about it...we owe the entire Dooley family a lot of gratitude.

    Excellent first post and welcome to the board! +1

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  • InVols said...

    I don't like the thought of Cut and Tommy either, but holy smokes we don't need James Franklin. I have no appetite left for an up and coming guy. If we spend bigger on the front end with a proven winner we won't be spending money as the guy walks out the door. If we elect to save money this time around, I guess there's a good chance we'll have to be content with how it's come to be lately: watch our team continue to be mediocre and root for Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, and So Car.

    There's risk in every hire, but the odds are more likely that an up and coming coach is less likely to succeed. Up and coming Bryan Kellys and Urban Meyers are few and far between out there. By the time those guys reached Notre Dame and Florida, they were already proven winners. James Franklin I'm sure is a good coach in a lot of ways, and hell the same can be said about Dooley, but Franklin hasn't proven anything of much substance yet. We've proven that just because a guy can recruit doesn't mean he can win the big games. I can't see this fan base enduring another experimental attempt to save from having to pay the big money.

    When you say put up the big money, who exactly are you talking about? Money doesn't always get people to leave a job. Saban got big money, but was terrible in the NFL and needed to come back to college. Gruden isn't going to choose NCAA over NFL no matter the money involved. Stoops just may not want to leave OU, regardless of the money. Most of the guys that would require "big money" are already making good money and sometimes an extra million or two isn't worth the trouble for them. So I'm confused as to whom you think would make a move, that's been proven, for "big money"?

    Philippians 2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

    ChrisUT

  • You can't just take Gruden off the block and then say "now who?".

    InVols

  • If you're so sure that Gruden takes the NFL over NCAA, then why didn't the Titans even glance his direction when we decided to hire the line coach? Again. The line coach. And don't say "well he wasn't ready to jump back in last year". I'm sure there's a team out there (maybe it IS the Eagles) who would want him, but from what's been indicated, he's interested in UT. You can't just take that name off the table yet. Let him do that. And certainly don't force his name off the table because we're stopping 2 mil short of a deal.

    InVols

  • No one is saying take him off the block, but a smart person like Hart knows that the chances are low, regardless of the money. Gruden isn't going anywhere because of money, but because the situation is "right," like he's been quoted as saying. Gruden will have the Eagles, Browns, Chargers, Jaguars, and possibly the Cowboys to choose from, along with any other college vacancies that think he even somewhat desires to get back into college, of which he only has 4 total years of experience in. So again I ask, who is the "big money" hire?

    Philippians 2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

    ChrisUT

  • Supply and demand creates big money. We shall see who.

    InVols

  • I'm going with drizzle. If the chatter is true about Stoops being unhappy, you got to go after him. That's a big if.

    wataugavol

  • wataugavol said...

    I'm going with drizzle. If the chatter is true about Stoops being unhappy, you got to go after him. That's a big if.

    agree, I think if he's unhappy and the lure of the SEC, we have to throw money at him. He would do great, and he's consistently led his team to high profile games and scheduled tough opponents.

    Philippians 2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

    ChrisUT

  • Stoops would be a good one.

    InVols

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  • Regarding the critcism of Chavis' defense inablity to stop LSU on that game ending drive a few years ago, If we had replay back then I believe the LSU QB (Russell?) would have been charged with a fumble on that drive that we recovered and that whole season might have turned out differently. On such trivial things, seasons and careers have been impacted, some greatly.

    This post was edited by hueypilot on 11/12/2012 at 9:38 AM

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  • Wish our entire fan culture was more like this post.

    Son of a Butch

  • I think it's VERY important to draw a line here between the Kiffin switch and the Dooley switch.

    Kiffin was (is) some sort of chimera, half offensive savant and half juvenile delinquent. Between the loud mouth, slippery recruiting practices and completely unreliable roster management, he actually managed to leave the program in worse shape than he found it.

    Dooley, on the hand, came into a dumpster fire, inheriting not only the weakest of the Fulmer-era's roster, but also Kiffin's rapidly deteriorating one-and-a-half recruiting classes, Kiffin/Pearl/Hamilton's NCAA scrutiny (does anyone realize how close we were to getting thumped?), an embarrassingly upside-down financial situation and a likewise embarrassing mismanagement of facilities...or at least reasonable plans to grow and improve them.

    Dooley stabilized the football department's operations, reloaded the roster with competitive talent and, most importantly, returned a sense of real culture and ethic to the program, through his own good humor as well as his installation of culture-building programs like VFL.

    Unfortunately, he didn't win enough, and when he lost, he lost badly.

    Dooley's record, I believe, reflects not upon an error in his process or preparation, but rather simply an inability to decipher the unbelieveably rapid implementation of unbelievably complex tactics at play in elite college football, most explicitly during gametime at critical moments. Dooley (as representative of his staff, philosophy and strategy) is the proverbial knife in a gunfight: a fine weapon in certain situations, certainly better than nothing, but not the thing to win modern wars.

    Son of a Butch

  • Beach Vol said...

    Amen brother! Look at the state of UT football before Dooley got here. His successor will inherit a sound football team and unlike Dooley, will be hailed as a brilliant coach because of '13 team's success.
    Think about it...we owe the entire Dooley family a lot of gratitude.

    Hell i dont think we owe him anything we send him on his way with 5 million

    gborasnic