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Dooley to Southern Miss. Thoughts?

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6 months ago

Just saw where Ellis Johnson won't be returning next season. What do you guys think?
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6 months ago

I think he will take a year or two off. Most fired head coaches seem to do that.
I hope for his sake that he catches on as a HC somewhere because without Coordinator experience I question whether he will have another shot at working up the ladder.
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6 months ago

That would be great because it would reduce/negate the buyout we have to pay him.
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6 months ago

so if he took another coaches job it would reduce the buy out?
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6 months ago

Jetervol said...
That would be great because it would reduce/negate the buyout we have to pay him.

This is what I thought too. would be good for us.
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6 months ago

Jetervol said...
That would be great because it would reduce/negate the buyout we have to pay him.

Just what I was thinking. Where ever he ends up I hope he gets a nice hefty salary. Save the UT bucks for current staff.
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6 months ago

Jetervol said...
That would be great because it would reduce/negate the buyout we have to pay him.

I don't think it would. I believe his money is guaranteed like Fulmers' was.
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6 months ago

Gay4Bray said...
Just saw where Ellis Johnson won't be returning next season. What do you guys think?

Dooley will likely take a year off and spend some of the $5 Million. I know I would. After that, I think he should go for an athletic director gig at a mid-major. He just is not a great football coach. However, he is a good organizer and would likely be a good AD one day.
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Smokey03 said...
I don't think it would. I believe his money is guaranteed like Fulmers' was.

This is my understanding also. The assts would be reduced if they found a job
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Smokey03 said...
I don't think it would. I believe his money is guaranteed like Fulmers' was.

Wow, i thought it would be reduced by an salary that he made during the buyout period but i don't remember where i heard that. I could be wrong.
W/R/K, do you know?
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6 months ago

wataugavol said...
This is my understanding also. The assts would be reduced if they found a job

Thanks for clarifying that watauga. I was under the wrong impression.
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6 months ago

Who cares about Dooley. The big question is can our new HC get Ellis Johnson as his DC. He would be great IMO. Obviously was horrible this year as a HC but has been a great DC in the SEC for a long time.
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6 months ago

Dooley's contract does not include that clause. He gets $5 million regardless.
The coaches hired by Hart (Graham, Pittman, Sal, etc.) have that clause.
Edit: Should have read to bottom. Apologies.

This post was edited by Rockytop85 on 11/27/2012 at 12:13 PM
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6 months ago

Thanks Smokey, Wataugavol and RT85. It just blows my mind that there was no clause in Dooley's contract that a buyout would be reduced if he immediately found a new job. I might need to negotiate some contracts with our former AD.
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6 months ago

Jetervol said...
That would be great because it would reduce/negate the buyout we have to pay him.

I don't think this is correct. My understanding was that his buyout (along with at least a couple of the assistants' buyouts) was unconditional. Meaning that it doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do - the money is his.
http://www.wate.com/story/20132003/cost-to-ut-and-football-program-letting-dooley-go
EDIT: Oh, geez, I got reply-sniped by more than one poster. Sorry to sound like I'm piling on.

This post was edited by petergaultney on 11/27/2012 at 12:21 PM
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6 months ago

Once again, I can't wrap my head around guaranteeing an unproven coach that kind of money. CURSE YOU HAMILTON!!!!!
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westtnvolfan said...
Who cares about Dooley. The big question is can our new HC get Ellis Johnson as his DC. He would be great IMO. Obviously was horrible this year as a HC but has been a great DC in the SEC for a long time.

This is proof of why you don't take an elite DC and try to make a head coach out of him when he has no HCing experience. Southern Miss was a good team. Went from 12-2 to 0-12 in 1 year. Johnson is every bit as good of a DC as Kirby Smart as well.
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6 months ago

I thought I had read that his buyout was guaranteed no matter if he found a new job or not?
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6 months ago

Never mind, didn't take the time to read the whole thread before replying.
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6 months ago

Hyams said according to the people he's talked to close to Dooley he doesn't think Dooley will ever coach again because he has no interest in being an assistant or working his way up from a small school again. Said he'll probably go into TV.
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6 months ago

I listened to Vince Dooley's interview with Hyams and he said something along the lines of Dooley taking some time off to reflect but Vince had no clue what he'd end up doing in the future. It's ultimately up to him as to whether or not he wants to coach again though..Not anyone else who is "close to him". I can't imagine jumping straight from the wreck this season was at UT to another coaching job even if he was considered. There's only so much stress a man (and his family, no less) can take all at once...
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