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Gruden will never return to UT

  • He started here and his wife was a cheerleader blah blah blah we all know the background but Gruden is an NFL coach and will never coach in college. I can 100% guarantee it. Expect to be let down if you honestly think there is a chance he comes here.

    First off, Gruden is a control freak and would be limited by the NCAA. After years and years in the NFL 20 hrs/week with the team wouldn't be nearly enough for him. He demands film room presence but he can't be with the players, it would eat him uphaving to rely on a 18-22 yr old kid to do the film study demanded by Gruden. He wouldn't be able to be as hands on, and would basically be workin with a hand tied behind his back working in college.

    Secondly, if he says he wants to get back into coaching, numerous NFL teams will gladly fire theircurrent coach to offer 5x the money UT could offer up. Simple fact. Carolina, AZ, Jax, Minn, all come to mind quickly.
    Third, his name comes up everytime and he's simply not a serious candidate. He's an NFL guy and has no ties to the South in terms of recruiting. His name is big but hasn't done anything positive in coaching in 10 yrs when he won a Super Bowl which kids now a days prob can't name the super bowl winning coach from 3 yrs ago. Sure he has countless ties to the NFL but other than that he hasn't ever recruited.

    The NFL will throw way more money at him than UT could ever hope to offer. It's not gunna happen.

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    ATL_Vol18

  • You have some fair points and u probably started this thread looking for a debate to put it nicely because u failed to do research on Gruden. He has spent five years in college ball so i am sure he has recruited before. He has stated numerous times Tennesse would be a place he would coach if he returned to college. He has already won a super bowl why would he need to prove himself there again. Plus he loves Tennessee and i dont know if he is a fan or not but people say he speaks highly of Knoxville and the Vols program. Lastly, Never say Never without facts and you have none just like the rest of us at this point.

    Puddin Gooden

  • I don't know if he's coming here or not, but guess what: You don't either.

    Jersey Vol

  • ATL_Vol18 said...

    He started here and his wife was a cheerleader blah blah blah we all know the background but Gruden is an NFL coach and will never coach in college. I can 100% guarantee it. Expect to be let down if you honestly think there is a chance he comes here.

    First off, Gruden is a control freak and would be limited by the NCAA. After years and years in the NFL 20 hrs/week with the team wouldn't be nearly enough for him. He demands film room presence but he can't be with the players, it would eat him uphaving to rely on a 18-22 yr old kid to do the film study demanded by Gruden. He wouldn't be able to be as hands on, and would basically be workin with a hand tied behind his back working in college.

    Secondly, if he says he wants to get back into coaching, numerous NFL teams will gladly fire theircurrent coach to offer 5x the money UT could offer up. Simple fact. Carolina, AZ, Jax, Minn, all come to mind quickly.
    Third, his name comes up everytime and he's simply not a serious candidate. He's an NFL guy and has no ties to the South in terms of recruiting. His name is big but hasn't done anything positive in coaching in 10 yrs when he won a Super Bowl which kids now a days prob can't name the super bowl winning coach from 3 yrs ago. Sure he has countless ties to the NFL but other than that he hasn't ever recruited.

    The NFL will throw way more money at him than UT could ever hope to offer. It's not gunna happen.

    Just out of curiosity, how do you make a "100% guarantee" when you have NO involvement in the situation? For the record...I don't think Gruden is our next coach nor will I be let down if he's not.

    VooDooVolunteer

  • Why would Arizona get rid of their coach?

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  • orangeasylum said...

    Why would Arizona get rid of their coach?

    Exactly whisenhunt has done a pretty Good job at arizona compared to the past

    Bmc2014

  • Bmc2014 said...

    Exactly whisenhunt has done a pretty Good job at arizona compared to the past

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  • Here's an old article I found on Gruden. I'm not arguing that this means anything one way or the other - just found in interesting, given all the speculation.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Life-With-Gruden-for-Better-or-Worse-2965820.php

    Life With Gruden for Better or Worse

    CINDY GRUDEN is sure her husband, Jon, the head coach of the Raiders, actually proposed at some point. By the time Jon sent for Cindy to come to San Francisco, he'd been at Southeast Missouri State and Pacific, and was muddling along as a glorified video librarian at the Bill Walsh think tank. Cindy was a graduate student at Tennessee, past her days as a college cheerleader, when she met Jon, who was scratching along on the fringes of the Tennessee football program. The coaches would send him down to The Strip (Knoxville's main drag) to get something to eat for everybody, and of course parking was just terrible, so he'd just get a place and get a ticket. Gruden had a nice gig in Stockton, in charge of the wide receivers at UOP in 1989, but he gave it all up -- a paid car, insurance, and medical coverage -- to come to the 49ers. The late Bobb McKittrick once said his son had done it for a while and gotten bored and quit, but it gave Gruden access to the meetings and minds he needed. The next year one of the 49ers' contacts paid off when Paul Hackett, the head coach at the University of Pittsburgh, offered Gruden the position as wide receivers coach. When it was announced that Mike Holmgren, another 49er contact, was the new head coach for the Green Bay Packers, the apartment went silent every time the phone rang. became offensive coordinator at Philadelphia, and then was hired as the youngest head coach in the NFL by Al Davis. Cindy has organized a large group of the wives of players and coaches to come to the training facility to watch away games together. She's learned to ignore the terrible words her husband can be seen mouthing on the sidelines, and a schedule that has him leaving the house at 5 a.m. and not coming home until 9 or 10 that night early in the week.

    www.sfgate.com

    winchestervol63

  • orangeasylum said...

    Why would Arizona get rid of their coach?

    Minnesota is doing pretty good also.

    tnbear66

  • ATL_Vol18 said...

    He started here and his wife was a cheerleader blah blah blah we all know the background but Gruden is an NFL coach and will never coach in college. I can 100% guarantee it. Expect to be let down if you honestly think there is a chance he comes here.

    First off, Gruden is a control freak and would be limited by the NCAA. After years and years in the NFL 20 hrs/week with the team wouldn't be nearly enough for him. He demands film room presence but he can't be with the players, it would eat him uphaving to rely on a 18-22 yr old kid to do the film study demanded by Gruden. He wouldn't be able to be as hands on, and would basically be workin with a hand tied behind his back working in college.

    Secondly, if he says he wants to get back into coaching, numerous NFL teams will gladly fire theircurrent coach to offer 5x the money UT could offer up. Simple fact. Carolina, AZ, Jax, Minn, all come to mind quickly. Third, his name comes up everytime and he's simply not a serious candidate. He's an NFL guy and has no ties to the South in terms of recruiting. His name is big but hasn't done anything positive in coaching in 10 yrs when he won a Super Bowl which kids now a days prob can't name the super bowl winning coach from 3 yrs ago. Sure he has countless ties to the NFL but other than that he hasn't ever recruited.

    The NFL will throw way more money at him than UT could ever hope to offer. It's not gunna happen.

    You may turn out to be right overall, but you are wrong about one thing for sure. You say the NFL teams would offer him 5X the money UT ever could, and that's absurd. The highest paid NFL coach is about $8M a year, and I have no doubt that UT could offer $5M if they so chose. Belichik makes about $7M.

    Basically, your analysis of the money situation is overstated, imo. It's possible he might be offered more money in the NFL than UT would offer, but it surely wouldn't remotely approach 5X more. Could even be less if it's not a high-end franchise.

    winchestervol63

  • ATL_Vol18 said...

    He started here and his wife was a cheerleader blah blah blah we all know the background but Gruden is an NFL coach and will never coach in college. I can 100% guarantee it. Expect to be let down if you honestly think there is a chance he comes here.

    First off, Gruden is a control freak and would be limited by the NCAA. After years and years in the NFL 20 hrs/week with the team wouldn't be nearly enough for him. He demands film room presence but he can't be with the players, it would eat him uphaving to rely on a 18-22 yr old kid to do the film study demanded by Gruden. He wouldn't be able to be as hands on, and would basically be workin with a hand tied behind his back working in college.

    Secondly, if he says he wants to get back into coaching, numerous NFL teams will gladly fire theircurrent coach to offer 5x the money UT could offer up. Simple fact. Carolina, AZ, Jax, Minn, all come to mind quickly. Third, his name comes up everytime and he's simply not a serious candidate. He's an NFL guy and has no ties to the South in terms of recruiting. His name is big but hasn't done anything positive in coaching in 10 yrs when he won a Super Bowl which kids now a days prob can't name the super bowl winning coach from 3 yrs ago. Sure he has countless ties to the NFL but other than that he hasn't ever recruited.

    The NFL will throw way more money at him than UT could ever hope to offer. It's not gunna happen.

    have you not read the rumors?

    volfan28

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  • IF an NFL team wanted Gruden they would have already made him an offer. What's stopping them?

    coonhound

  • winchestervol63 said...

    Here's an old article I found on Gruden. I'm not arguing that this means anything one way or the other - just found in interesting, given all the speculation.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Life-With-Gruden-for-Better-or-Worse-2965820.php

    Uh oh! All those unpaid Knoxville parking tickets, with interest, might cost him a year's salary.

    roflmao

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    RockytopATL

  • Why would he want a future at Tennessee? The fans would be on him if he ever got below 8 wins, and he would leave, and return to his gig, where he can have fun, and make good money.

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    BillyVol

  • BillyVol said...

    Why would he want a future at Tennessee? The fans would be on him if he ever got below 8 wins, and he would leave, and return to his gig, where he can have fun, and make good money.

    Nope that's where you're wrong. The difference between Dooley and Gruden is simple. Dooley has a track record of never winning. Gruden doesn't.That's why Dooley doesn't get any slack from most fans because he's never proven anything. You bring in a coach with a proven track record, the fans are more likely to give that man more time.

    hdrizzle21

  • My bad for the triple post. I thought for it was locked up.

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    BillyVol

  • BillyVol said...

    My bad for the triple post. I thought for it was locked up.

    I got your duplicates. Thx.

    Kevin Ryan