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  • hackburgman said...

    Hey I pay the same as you I can post whatever same as you so if ya don't like it don't read it my man

    Paying your subscription doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk...

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  • tntoak said...

    Paying your subscription doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk...

    Wasn't acting like a jerk. Someone asked a question I answered it with my opinion then I got blew out. I'm not on here as much as you other guys so I understand you regulars sticking up for each other and all that. I'm just really concerned about this program. So like I told him if ya don't like what I say don't read my posts.

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  • CrockettTM said...

    If the university is only willing to pay 2-3 million per year for a head coach, I don't see them ever being able to bring an elite guy. So that's an issue.

    We are currently paying out way to much money to go all Bama and Kentucky(hoops) to get a proven stud coach, but I'm still behind Dooley until he is no longer out coach, I will also continue to make excuses for him until he is no longer our coach. None of that was for you Crockett lol

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  • I think the biggest reason for our struggle back to the top is the quality of coaches in the SEC now --- Back in the glory days of top-5 talent (94 or 95 through 2003 or 2004) we had coaches at GA, LSU, ALA, SC just of the top of my head that couldn't get the job done and we were able to pull top tier recruits out of those states. Now there are solid coaching staffs at those schools and the road for us is that much harder as our state produces 10-15 D1 decent to good football players per year....

    Dooley needs more time to succeed or fail IMO with what he inherited talent wise much less with the superior upgrades in the coaching staff(s) at those schools where we used to pull top talent year after year -

    I don't like some of the things I see on the field but we have to be patient at this point IMO -

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  • rexvol said...

    Be second rate? Serious question. We have the money, the fan base, the tradition, the facilities, and we play in the premier conference in America. How long do settle for subpar coaching and an inferior product?

    SOS from OP. He's been bounced from VQ and comes over here w his anti-Dooley agenda. Rex you're as bad as ever...congrats

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  • Docvol25 said...

    SOS from OP. He's been bounced from VQ and comes over here w his anti-Dooley agenda. Rex you're as bad as ever...congrats

    So they FINALLY booted him?

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  • A determination on Dooley can't be made based on unrealistic expectations of fans who know nothing about football and are disappointed because we "should have" beaten Florida. Why should we have beaten Florida? Because you said so? Florida is a few years removed from being a two-time NC. They've had top 5 recruiting classes in several of the last few years. They are deeper than UT, they are faster than UT. Dooley did not inherit the depth or talent that Muschamp did. If you recall, Muschamp turned us down. Why do you think he did that? Because he realized it was a long rebuilding project with an uncertain outcome and he wanted no parts of it. Think of it this way... If this year's team played last year's team or the 2010 team what would be the outcome? We are getting progressively better than we were under Fulmer or Kiffin. The program is headed up.

    The SEC is an unforgiving league with no room for error. It's not the same two team league it was in the late 90's. Do you honestly think if Saban was our coach that we would have won against LSU, Bama, UGA, UF, or ARK last year? Not a chance. Lombardi wouldn't have won those games.

    Unless he completely flops, Dooley is here through next year. Get used to it.

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  • WV-Vol said...

    A determination on Dooley can't be made based on unrealistic expectations of fans who know nothing about football and are disappointed because we "should have" beaten Florida. Why should we have beaten Florida? Because you said so? Florida is a few years removed from being a two-time NC. They've had top 5 recruiting classes in several of the last few years. They are deeper than UT, they are faster than UT. Dooley did not inherit the depth or talent that Muschamp did. If you recall, Muschamp turned us down. Why do you think he did that? Because he realized it was a long rebuilding project with an uncertain outcome and he wanted no parts of it. Think of it this way... If this year's team played last year's team or the 2010 team what would be the outcome? We are getting progressively better than we were under Fulmer or Kiffin. The program is headed up.

    The SEC is an unforgiving league with no room for error. It's not the same two team league it was in the late 90's. Do you honestly think if Saban was our coach that we would have won against LSU, Bama, UGA, UF, or ARK last year? Not a chance. Lombardi wouldn't have won those games.

    Unless he completely flops, Dooley is here through next year. Get used to it.

    All due respect I think we do win a few of those games with saban. And the lack of talent doesn't that fall back to dooley somewhat ? I mean does one more recruiting mean that much differnce next year ? Then we lose what good players we do have. So we will be kinda starting all over again rite ? At some point we have to see player development. Hey dooley got a mess with this program I agree I just don't think he is the man to fix it. I really don't.

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  • rexvol said...

    What in the world are you talking about? You think critiquing the coach of our program is "crying like school girl"? Dooley's recruiting at best has been 7th in the SEC, you want to crow about that? In year 2 he lost to KY with a wr at QB. We just struggled with Akron after punting our single best chance to beat UF in years and guess what? UF will only be better next year and the year after. UGA is #5 and recruiting top 5 in the nation. CDD is not the coach to take us back to competing. The fact is that had LK not quit with the worst timing imaginable, DD wouldnt have even been on the radar. He was a losing coach and frankly, the only guy that would take the job other than Kippy.

    There is a difference between critiquing and bashing the staff. Yes our recruiting has been 7th best, but what more can you expect? NOT meeting the 85 scholarship limit, NOT having depth, NOT having healthy players....I am pretty sure the last time I checked it is hard to beat even the worst teams with those kinds of problems. Was that our best chance to beat Florida? Maybe, but what if Bray and Hunter and CP come back next year? What then? Is our best chance to beat them next year? Yes we struggled with Akron, but we won by 3 TD's. No we didnt cover the spread either, but we ran the ball extremely well. How do you know that CDD is not the coach to take us back to competing? Just because he has been here 2+ years and we cant beat a #14 ranked Florida team? And if CDD was the only coach who would take the job other than 'kippy' then who else did you expect to come in??????

    All you negative guys crack me up. You cant see the forest because of the trees. We play in the SEC not the ACC. We had ZERO depth coming into this season....we are still struggling with depth. What do you expect from recruits when the head coach is on the hot seat every year? Do you think kids want to come play for a coach who is only going to have a 2-3 year contract? Do you think coaches are going to want to come here and coach for a fan base that gives them less than 3 years to win 9 games with ZERO depth, hurt players, not up to the 85 scholarship limit in the toughest conference in America???? Expectations are everything, but you also have to have reality with the expectations.

    And by the way HACK - just because you pay for the site doesnt give you the right to act like a douche. Kids and Kids parents read message boards and it is a negative recruiting tool. I take that back......that last statement goes for all the Negative people on here.......

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  • rexvol said...

    His fair chance is this year and we are mediocre yet again. Arkansas and Auburn have had recent success, the best we've had is beat downs in crap bowls.

    How are we medicore we are 3-1. Your are counting losses we don't have yet. Its college ball and teenagers you never know what will happen. Teams could loose key players players get in trouble and kicked off. We might string together some wins and get confidence. I just can't believe this fan base is so ready to bail on everything. I bet Duke its glad they gave Coach K that fourth year.

    Puddin Gooden