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IMO Hart should be fired

  • I don't know if Gruden was the best option for us are not. His record in the NFL was just 100-85. He is suppose to be this big competitor. Then he runs away because he will only get 20 hours a week practice. That's all anyone gets. If he is such a competitor I would think he would want to prove he could do better with his 20 hours than others can. Everyone in the NCAA has the same rules, not much of a competitor IMO.
    Hart should be fired for letting this Gruden thing get so big. He should have been playing it down all along. Now whoever he selects will have most of the fan base against him. He may have trouble getting anyone to take the job the way he has set them up.

    Pastor Jax

  • When did Dave Hart mention Jon Gruden?

    The Bubster

  • Yep, lets fire him. That would be smart of the University. Come on man!

    kwebbvols234423

  • Dave Hart never said anything about Gruden. It is the media that has done that. He controlled the information coming from The AD - and did a good job considering that virtually nobody is in agreement on what's going on there.

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    tntoak

  • Dave Hart is not Mike Hamilton..Enough Said

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    Alexdykes22

  • I think before we pull out the pitchforks we should at least let him hire someone. He may turn out to be the best AD we've ever had. Lets give him a chance at least

    VolFan65

  • Pastor Jax said...

    I don't know if Gruden was the best option for us are not. His record in the NFL was just 100-85. He is suppose to be this big competitor. Then he runs away because he will only get 20 hours a week practice. That's all anyone gets. If he is such a competitor I would think he would want to prove he could do better with his 20 hours than others can. Everyone in the NCAA has the same rules, not much of a competitor IMO.
    Hart should be fired for letting this Gruden thing get so big. He should have been playing it down all along. Now whoever he selects will have most of the fan base against him. He may have trouble getting anyone to take the job the way he has set them up.

    He can't help our fans are so desperate they believe Volnation and fl98 posters over real media that has been telling you this isn't even close to a done deal

    Casvol31

  • Our fanbase is going crazy for Gruden. There are like 20 new threads/day on this website alone that pertain to Gruden. Hart goes out and attempts to make the hire - the ones the fans want - but according to proven sources, after a little mulling it over Gruden decides he doesn't want to coach college ball. What should Hart have done differently during the past week or so? He can't say Gruden won't be our next coach if he is pursuing him can he? On the other hand, he can't announce tht he has extended an offer to/ has interest in/ has talked to Gruden because then why happens when Gruden decides not to take the job. Seriously, before we go firing this guy lets at least let the guy make a hire.

    VooDooVolunteer

  • You need some perspective man.

    Brandon Hall

  • Pastor Jax said...

    I don't know if Gruden was the best option for us are not. His record in the NFL was just 100-85. He is suppose to be this big competitor. Then he runs away because he will only get 20 hours a week practice. That's all anyone gets. If he is such a competitor I would think he would want to prove he could do better with his 20 hours than others can. Everyone in the NCAA has the same rules, not much of a competitor IMO. Hart should be fired for letting this Gruden thing get so big. He should have been playing it down all along. Now whoever he selects will have most of the fan base against him. He may have trouble getting anyone to take the job the way he has set them up.

    Get real, dude.

    VolBaller33

  • Come on, Jax. You're above this.

    TexasseeVol

  • Guys if you don't control the discussion it will control you. He knew what was being said. He should have been meeting with the press. Down playing the rumors. The quite game he is playing only let things get to the place where more than your normal 1/3 will be disgruntled.
    Again I will be happy with any of the coaches Wes has been talking about. Read this board there are tens of thousands upset and it didn't have to happen if Mr Hart had not been playing the quite game. Flame away, he could have prevented it getting this big.

    Pastor Jax

  • Pastor Jax said...

    I don't know if Gruden was the best option for us are not. His record in the NFL was just 100-85. He is suppose to be this big competitor. Then he runs away because he will only get 20 hours a week practice. That's all anyone gets. If he is such a competitor I would think he would want to prove he could do better with his 20 hours than others can. Everyone in the NCAA has the same rules, not much of a competitor IMO. Hart should be fired for letting this Gruden thing get so big. He should have been playing it down all along. Now whoever he selects will have most of the fan base against him. He may have trouble getting anyone to take the job the way he has set them up.

    Doesn't the bible teach us patience and that all things will pass? roflmao

    It's not Hart that let this thing get out of control, it's us on this message board. This Gruden deal is only a big deal to those of us on this board. The Tennessee fans that I know who do frequent message boards barely know what's going on. To them nothing is out of control.

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    RunThruThe T

  • Read the thread Gruden's agent speaks out. Hart never spoke to Gruden. He should have controlled this, by talking to the press. It should have never let it become so big. What we have here is a failure of the AD to do his job.

    Pastor Jax

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    volsfaninohio

  • ...whatever.

    Just another lemon into lemonade job. - Switchfoot

    VFLGBO82

  • Was it the media or was it the radio talk shows and members of message boards like us?

    coonhound

  • RunThruThe T said...

    Doesn't the bible teach us patience and that all things will pass? roflmao

    It's not Hart that let this thing get out of control, it's us on this message board. This Gruden deal is only a big deal to those of us on this board. The Tennessee fans that I know who do frequent message boards barely know what's going on. To them nothing is out of control.

    I disagree with you brother. That's what fans do, talk about what they like or want. What good leaders do when they see thing going the wrong direction is take action. He should have talked to the press. He should have called Wes and Hubbs in and said we haven't talked yet help me out here. Several Bible verses come to mind, but I'm not going to preach here. If I lead my church the way Hart has led the UT nation the last few weeks I am sure God would have fired me.

    Pastor Jax

  • Pastor....Dave Hart is not the voice of the fan. Not his job.

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    Alexdykes22

  • Pastor Jax said...

    I disagree with you brother. That's what fans do, talk about what they like or want. What good leaders do when they see thing going the wrong direction is take action. He should have talked to the press. He should have called Wes and Hubbs in and said we haven't talked yet help me out here. Several Bible verses come to mind, but I'm not going to preach here. If I lead my church the way Hart has led the UT nation the last few weeks I am sure God would have fired me.

    What wrong direction? What does your bible say about rumor mongering? It's one thing to speculate and listen to rumors on a sports board and another thing all together to call for a man to lose his job because he didn't satisfy yours and others desire to know. As for the several verses your not going to share with us let me make a suggestion from the Gospel of Matthew "be wise as a serpent but gentle as a Dove". That seems to fit what Hart is doing. Is his obligation to finding the right man the right way or satisfying those who can't stand not knowing and getting their speculations confirmed. Is he perhaps maintaining silence for confidentiality reasons? I have to say I am disappointed in your reaction. But that's just me.

    This post was edited by tnbear66 on 11/30/2012 at 1:41 PM

    tnbear66

  • Pastor Jax said...

    I don't know if Gruden was the best option for us are not. His record in the NFL was just 100-85. He is suppose to be this big competitor. Then he runs away because he will only get 20 hours a week practice. That's all anyone gets. If he is such a competitor I would think he would want to prove he could do better with his 20 hours than others can. Everyone in the NCAA has the same rules, not much of a competitor IMO. Hart should be fired for letting this Gruden thing get so big. He should have been playing it down all along. Now whoever he selects will have most of the fan base against him. He may have trouble getting anyone to take the job the way he has set them up.

    Everyone knew that lure of the NFL would be hard to overcome , How is that Hart's fault ? I never heard Hart come out and say that Gruden was his man to start with , besides we need to trust that Hart has some one in mind . We need to judge after the hire is made not before .

    This post was edited by docmac on 11/30/2012 at 1:49 PM

    docmac

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    Mksuzore

  • tnbear66 said...

    What wrong direction? What does your bible say about rumor mongering? It's one thing to speculate and listen to rumors on a sports board and another thing all together to call for a man to lose his job because he didn't satisfy yours and others desire to know. As for the several verses your not going to share with us let me make a suggestion from the Gospel of Matthew "be wise as a serpent but gentle as a Dove". That seems to fit what Hart is doing. Is his obligation to finding the right man the right way or satisfying those who can't stand not knowing and getting their speculations confirmed. Is he perhaps maintaining silence for confidentiality reasons? I have to say I am disappointed in your reaction. But that's just me.

    Bear
    They wrong direction is when rumor after rumor kept coming out. At some point he has to say the expectations here are going to put me in a corner. I never said Hart caused and rumors. But his silence, when even Wes was saying it was a possibility, was not smart. He never talked to Gruden till yesterday if you believe Gruden's agent. Now I truly feel sorry for our next coach.

    I may have used too strong words saying he should be fired. But his failure to call rumors what they are, allowed them to grow. Now he gets to live with the results.

    Pastor Jax

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