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GoBigO said...
1) You are in a situation where you're well liked, your team's playing well, you have a lot of players returning next year. 2) You feel loyalty to the only school and AD who would give you a chance to be head coach. 3) Your AD says "I will match any offer". 4) Tennessee says "we're interested, but you;re not at the top of our list.
Would you A) Say no thanks, I'm happy where I'm at, at my current salary? or B) say "I'm interested, make me an offer" You might even convince yourself that you would seriously consider the offer.
Well played, Mr. Strong, well played.
Now if you're Dave Hart, what would you do?
You don't know if he's bucking for a raise or truly interested, but there IS ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT. You have to make an offer. There's no other way. Can you imagine if Hart had passed on Strong with out making an offer? Fans would be calling for your head. But if you make an offer and get turned down, some fans are still calling for your head.
Unbelievable how unrealistic some people are. At a critical time in our program's history, the "Fire everybody crowd is out in full force". I was always taught not to criticize someone until I had walked in their shoes. So I ask you again, what would you have done? If this applies to you, you know who you are.
Rant over. Go VOLS!
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hueypilot said...
Since you asked the question here's what I would have done keeping firmly in mind. Rule number one: You negotiate from a point of strength not from a point of weakness. Fisher, Gundy and Strong were all operating from a point of strength relative to Hart's position. So I would have offered someone else the job. I would have made the offer to Gus Malzahn, to Butch Davis, to Larry Fedora, to someone who viewed the UT job as a great opportunity, and I would have offered it right after Gruden supposedly privately said no thanks before this turned into a massive goat rope of biblical proportions so that it didn't look like the candidate was number 15 on a list of coaches of which the first 14 said "Hell no, I won't go!" How on the other hand would an idiot have handled the coaching search? Pretty much the way Hart has.
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GoBigO said...
The only problem with your approach is that everybody thought Strong was interested. You have no way of knowing until you make the offer.
You don't know if Malzahn, Davis or Fedora would take the job or not.
Could you imagine if Hart had gone right after Fedora from the start just because he thought he wouldn't say no?
You have no idea what you're talking about.
This post was edited by hueypilot on 12/6/2012 at 6:21 AM
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volfanrbf said...
huey - First and foremast, maybe Hart was more astute about Gruden's real level; of interest and saw thru it where the pie-eye Booster just thought they could buy anyone. Also, wasn't Strong the first guy interviewed after Gruden said no? I thought he was interviewed on Sunday? Maybe then he gave Hart enough of an uneasy feeling Hart continued on down his list to Gundy and Gundy was more open about his interest. Maybe then Strong came back after seeing the strength of who Hart continued with and felt he better show more interest or get passed over. So now Hart has two interested and he goes for Gundy first, gets the word that Gundy is staying home. Then moves focus back to Strong while continuing will feelers out to others (Fedora), give Strong his offer and UL comes back so large he cannot says no. I believe that is what the UL AD said he was going to do.
If it is plausible that this is how Hart has been handling the situation then it is also plausible that he hasn't screwed up anything but has had a plan and is working thru it. Now, I would agree the plan probably did not have the expectation that both Gundy & Strong would stay at home nor did it expect Fedora to have such morals (since many feel most coaches are somewhat whores) which is why we all feel - OH SHIT. But to close my point, maybe, just maybe Hart had this plan and has been going down this path all along. I am no genius but I do hire people and this is somewhat how I would have operated given the assumptions I have made, which are as factual as any others I have read on the board.hueypilot
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hueypilot said...
You might be right. But I've hired people too and if we're going to compare this to the business world it's all about results. Effort is nice but it effort walks and results talk. And at this point Hart might be putting forth effort but his results are zip. I'm not on the crucify Hart bandwagon. I have no ax to grind with him. But so far his performance is substandard.
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If you are Charlie Strong, what do you do?