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Kevin Sumlin went into Ala & Mississippi State in his 1st year

  • GoVols2011 said...

    You might support him but you don't even know how to spell his name. lol

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  • GoVols2011 said...

    You might support him but you don't even know how to spell his name. lol

    Once again, the Clay Travis School: throw out a ridiculous polarizing opinion, and when someone disagrees, just mock their spelling, punctuation, or profile picture. You can come out on top without any credible argument! It's brilliant!

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  • GoVols2011 said...

    And here they are. Thanks for coming.

    Say what you will but your statement has no comparative basis, all you are trying to do is stir up crap, take it to the other boards where it thrives.

    volfanrbf

  • smasher423 said...

    Once again, the Clay Travis School: throw out a ridiculous polarizing opinion, and when someone disagrees, just mock their spelling, punctuation, or profile picture. You can come out on top without any credible argument! It's brilliant!

    Why don't you point out where I am wrong? Only polarizing to those still in denial about Dooley.
    Facts are facts. The anger and angst shown by people on this board is aimed at the wrong people. You being mad at Clay is the perfect example.

    GoVols2011

  • GoVols2011 said...

    Why don't you point out where I am wrong? Only polarizing to those still in denial about Dooley.
    Facts are facts. The anger and angst shown by people on this board is aimed at the wrong people. You being mad at Clay is the perfect example.

    See my other post in this thread. I agree with you that Dooley has done a terrible job. I'm definitely not in denial. He doesnt deserve another year. See, I agree with you! But how you drew that conclusion comparing to Sumlin is very weak. Then mocking people's spelling when they disagree is even weaker. Quit being condescending and you won't be making enemies among those that actually agree with what you're trying to say.

    smasher423

  • I support Dooley and will continue to do so until he is let go. I truly believe If they make some defensive changes they can be awesome. Dave hart had some input into who he hired as DC, put players back to their regular 4-3 positions and at least be average, and I bet we win a lot of those close games.

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  • smasher423 said...

    See my other post in this thread. I agree with you that Dooley has done a terrible job. I'm definitely not in denial. He doesnt deserve another year. See, I agree with you! But how you drew that conclusion comparing to Sumlin is very weak. Then mocking people's spelling when they disagree is even weaker. Quit being condescending and you won't be making enemies among those that actually agree with what you're trying to say.

    It is easy Sumlin did something in his first year on the job that Dooley hasn't done in his 3 years here. Sumlin beat a ranked opponent, on the road, and in the conference.

    Dooley took UT in his 3rd year to the same place and got beat 3 weeks ago.

    Kevin Sumlin now has 4 wins in the SEC in his first year while Dooley is at 4 after 3 years.

    The point to this whole thing is you have people on here saying it would set the program back 5 years if we let Dooley go. That is false see Kevin Sumlin.

    They are also saying it has to be Jon Gruden or keep Dooley and I am pointing out that there are other coaches out there good enough to succeed where others have failed. See Kevin Sumlin.

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  • GoVols2011 said...

    with a freshman QB and did what Dooley couldn't do in his 3rd year.

    Dooley supporters let that sink in for awhile.

    Sumlin is a better coach than Dooley, eh? What a revelation.

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  • GoVols2011 said...

    It is easy Sumlin did something in his first year on the job that Dooley hasn't done in his 3 years here. Sumlin beat a ranked opponent, on the road, and in the conference.

    Dooley took UT in his 3rd year to the same place and got beat 3 weeks ago.

    Kevin Sumlin now has 4 wins in the SEC in his first year while Dooley is at 4 after 3 years.

    The point to this whole thing is you have people on here saying it would set the program back 5 years if we let Dooley go. That is false see Kevin Sumlin.

    They are also saying it has to be Jon Gruden or keep Dooley and I am pointing out that there are other coaches out there good enough to succeed where others have failed. See Kevin Sumlin.

    You're also "forgetting," or just plain ignoring, that Texas A&M was ranked at times last season. We were never reasonably close last year. So, Sumlin has a better team this year and has a quarterback who is playing better than anyone really expected.

    GeneralNeyland5

  • GeneralNeyland5 said...

    You're also "forgetting," or just plain ignoring, that Texas A&M was ranked at times last season. We were never reasonably close last year. So, Sumlin has a better team this year and has a quarterback who is playing better than anyone really expected.

    They were 6-6 last year and fired their coach. Their fans were divided about the firing just like ours is now. The point is they made the right choice, we need to make the same decision.

    Those saying keep Sherman must feel like fools today.

    GoVols2011

  • GoVols2011 said...

    It is easy Sumlin did something in his first year on the job that Dooley hasn't done in his 3 years here. Sumlin beat a ranked opponent, on the road, and in the conference.

    Dooley took UT in his 3rd year to the same place and got beat 3 weeks ago.

    Kevin Sumlin now has 4 wins in the SEC in his first year while Dooley is at 4 after 3 years.

    The point to this whole thing is you have people on here saying it would set the program back 5 years if we let Dooley go. That is false see Kevin Sumlin.

    They are also saying it has to be Jon Gruden or keep Dooley and I am pointing out that there are other coaches out there good enough to succeed where others have failed. See Kevin Sumlin.

    If the point you are trying to make is that Sumlin is an example of how first year coaches don't always mean you have to push the "reset" button on your program, then yes, once again, I agree with you.

    I've made the point on this board before that "stability" is overrated at this stage. It was very important 2-3 years ago when we had two coaches leave in two years. That was because the roster was decimated by the coaching turnover, and the new coach (Dooley) needed time to rebuild it. I would argue it has been rebuilt enough that stability should not be priority #1 anymore. This roster is not Bama or LSU caliber, but it is deep and talented enough (yes, even on defense) that we should be getting more results, and that falls on the coaches. Not SEC championships, but better than what we've seen so far.

    However, I think people who argue stability are also arguing that we can't afford to fire Dooley and miss on another coach, hence the Gruden or bust argument. And I think that has some merit. Not that it has to be Gruden, but it better be a good coach. A new coach doesn't mean we are starting over, UNLESS we take a gamble and miss, then we are back in this 2-3 years from now. If we fire Dooley and hire another mid-major coach with a mediocre record, I don't think many of us will be satisfied with that. That is change for the sake of change, and we will regret it.

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  • GoVols2011 said...

    You might support him but you don't even know how to spell his name.

    Well I can spell yours! But not without being censored! moon

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  • GoVols2011 said...

    You might support him but you don't even know how to spell his name.

    This is why I blocked you months ago, get a life and grow up.

    Coach CF