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or a possibility of bringing back Hinshaw for his recruiting abilities.

+1 UT Rudy.

I expect the NFL Draft to be awkward with Hunter and Patterson going high and playing well and we sit back and try to figure out why they were not as good at UT.

I disagree about the cockiness, I think you have to be at that position and it is a difficultt thing to internalize at 19-20.

What do you know about Weist that gives you that impression?

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=2451&sport=1&year=2013 Check out this link. Dont think he is that great of a recruiter eh???

compared with Hinshaw ------- http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=1338&sport=1&year=2013

See, I disagree. I think those are the two WR that you can't judge him on. When someone can't learn a few routes, as simply as you make his regimen (CP), you cannot put that on the coach. He has to keep up with the guys who are learning/already know the plays, and can't spend too much time with a single player, no matter how good he may be. As far as Hunter, I disagree again. As someone who has had a serious injury in college football and then tried to come back the next year, it is hard to get it out of your head and just play. Knowing it was a knee injury, he looked to be concentrating more on running cleanly and avoiding contact than catching, hence his "alligator arms". I look more at the next level of WR, such as Rogers and Carter. How much did they come on?? Carter came out of seemingly nowhere to contribute this year, and Rogers, who came in as just a burner with bad hands, turned into a fast possession receiver with good enough hands and a pretty decent route runner. Is that coaching? I think absolutely so.

Hinshaw is a better option than just about anyone out there. Keeping him also could minimize some of the recruiting turnover.

What's ol Charlie Baggett doing?

As a receiving corps, yes...its obvious to say they're some of the best we have ever had. I point out Patterson and Hunter due to the fact that they're the most publicized of our bunch. And you may not be this kind of person..idk..but its just my nature. No matter how good you are, there are always things to improve. The defense sucked...plain and simple. I totally give you those points. As for Hunter and Patterson and even Rogers (though I'd say was the MOST reliable of all of our receivers through this past season) at times, look at how good they were....then think back to Florida (sticks out to me the most) and Bama and other clutch moments where a big catch was possible. The ALL-OUT potential of those guys could have been even more than what it was given their skill sets. Nobody can take away from what they accomplished...no doubt about it; and they did accomplish alot; but nobody can tell me that their full potential was seen this season either. They learned from Hinshaw yes, but I feel that just their natural ability (which ALWAYS can improve) done most of what they accomplished under the previous coaching regime.

I can agree/disagree with a lot of the posts. Here's why. Sure hinshaw has a lot to offer. Has been successful in some areas and not in others. That's a given with anyone. I think by researching TJW history both coaching and recruiting has been very consistent. Anytime you are recruiting for a MAC or Big East school, you are limited on getting the elite talent. All that said, what would TJW's recruiting/coaching stats look like at a major program where he has better access to elite talent consistently? Would he stand to be more successful " stat " wise at UT than Hinshaw? Just asking'.

And this my good sir is a valid point I have not considered. I have only seen what I have seen from UT's end. I know nothing on TJW except what I see here. Good question indeed.

More than likely