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Not being a Debbie Downer, but....

  • I thought our execution down the stretch last night was very poor. I am pumped that we held on for the win, but I feel like this is an area for concern down the stretch and into March if we are fortunate enough to make it. I've posted a ton about Cuonzo, all positive, but I don't like how he handles late game situations such as last night. Starting at about the 5 minute mark Golden would just hold the ball untill there were about 7 seconds on the clock then someone would have to force something up. It appears to be coaching, because I can't imagine Golden just doing that on his own. I did like the call out of the timeout when McRae just took it straight to the hoop and Stokes got the putback. Especially with this team it just seems like they can't play with their foot off the gas and we are going to have to stay aggressive. I was just looking for some opinions to see what you guys think. We've got 3 very winnable games coming up and then we're going dancing...

    Imallvol

  • I thought they got lazy, or maybe it was too conservative, during the last five minutes myself.

    However, one thing to consider is that they were probably just about whipped. Many of them played most of that 60 minute game on Saturday.

    They were definitely trying to use as much clock as possible. I've always thought Golden isn't the savviest of point guards on when to attack when trying to milk the clock. He tends to wait too long and they end up having to throw up a 3-point brick at the buzzer.

    This post was edited by RockytopATL on 2/27/2013 at 10:09 AM

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  • We had just came off of a 4 over time game a few nights before. I looked like we got a bit tired, plus please remember that Florida is not your average Joe basketball team. They are a 1 or 2 seed in the big dance at the moment. Hard to be great in every part of the game when you are playing an Elite team like Florida. They are good. They are good to force you into a few bad mistakes. That's what makes them good.

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  • Imallvol said...

    I thought our execution down the stretch last night was very poor. I am pumped that we held on for the win, but I feel like this is an area for concern down the stretch and into March if we are fortunate enough to make it. I've posted a ton about Cuonzo, all positive, but I don't like how he handles late game situations such as last night. Starting at about the 5 minute mark Golden would just hold the ball untill there were about 7 seconds on the clock then someone would have to force something up. It appears to be coaching, because I can't imagine Golden just doing that on his own. I did like the call out of the timeout when McRae just took it straight to the hoop and Stokes got the putback. Especially with this team it just seems like they can't play with their foot off the gas and we are going to have to stay aggressive. I was just looking for some opinions to see what you guys think. We've got 3 very winnable games coming up and then we're going dancing...

    I understand what you mean. I thought we went into time-killing mode a little too quickly as well.

    Remember Florida had that wide open 3, down by four, with about a minute left. Luckily they missed and we got the rebound and from there on out, it was just wind the clock.

    But yes, I agree. I think it's important for UT to not take their foot off the gas until literally the last 30 seconds. McRae scoring that bucket with about a minute to go, right out of the timeout was brilliant. It caught Florida off guard, who thought we were just going to run it down. Rather go up a bucket and leave more time on the clock, than run out the clock and miss a hurried shot.

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  • No gameplan is perfect and hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, CCM got the W by a comfortable margin, over a good top ten team that is slated to be a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament. What more can we ask for?!

    utkdominic

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  • There's some truth there. The offense got reallllllllly stagnant down the stretch. But fortunately, tight defense and solid rebounding helped them overcome that and still keep the lead. While we weren't scoring, neither was Florida. That worked last night, but if they had a couple shots fall (remember that open 3 that Boynton missed), it's a different story.

    I don't know that it is all that much on Cuonzo, though. It sort of seemed like the players just wanted to run the clock out as fast as possible. No one wanted to deliver the "dagger" except McRae, and he went cold for a stretch. These guys still need to work on keeping their foot on the gas and putting teams away. Still an impressive win though. Basically made up for the cold offense with toughness, and I'm ok with that.

    This post was edited by smasher423 on 2/27/2013 at 10:16 AM

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  • i think there were a combination of factors that leads to your perception. We were in the precarious place where there were about 2-3 mins left on the clock, but we werent up by enough to simply hold the ball and wait to get fouled, but we still needed to run clock and limit UF's possessions. So i think there was some milking of the clock which could have been perceived as timidity/conservatism on offense. It was a balancing act for sure, and for a moment there, it looked like we may have struck the wrong balance and relied to heavily on just taking time off, rather than staying aggressive. The other part, as has been referenced, is there was a lot of fatigue out there, it was a grueling game, coming off a monster effort just a few days earlier, so i think some guys were just dragging, which affected our execution.

    frostyvol

  • Alexdykes22 said...

    We had just came off of a 4 over time game a few nights before. I looked like we got a bit tired, plus please remember that Florida is not your average Joe basketball team. They are a 1 or 2 seed in the big dance at the moment. Hard to be great in every part of the game when you are playing an Elite team like Florida. They are good. They are good to force you into a few bad mistakes. That's what makes them good.

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    They had to be tired, physically and mentally.

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  • To me it just looked like tired legs. Just about all everything 52 put up was short. I think we will be fine. I haven't looked at the box score but it seemed like all our most important players played most of the game.

    butler0320

  • Considering the 4ot win just two/three nights ago, I thought they were just tiring down the last several minutes...ill tell you what I'm concerned about and that's free throws....it might feel good just to make the tournament, but we will not win many games w out being able to shoot free throws. It's been that way all season and as proud of this team as I am right now, they won't last long against better quality teams w out hitting some free throws in the tourney.

    slytyger1618

  • To avoid the obvious answer everyone else has said about their legs I think it was a matter of relaxing themselves. We slowed down tempo a lot and chewed a lot of clock leaving us with a short shot clock, but every time Florida cut into the lead we had an answer. I think the team was relaxed and I never saw it slip out of control. So even though we didn't put the dagger in them this time I liked what I saw from a confidence standpoint.

    GBOsax

  • Lazy? I just did not read that.

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  • I know one thing about this team, it seems to me that McCrae and Golden thinks they have to do a little to much sometimes. I was at the game last night and I don't know how many times I seen Stokes and Hall set a screen for 52 & 11 many times, then roll off and be wide open right under the goal??? I just don't see how you miss seeing the pick & roll wide open over and over? The main thing though, is that they came out with the W!! GO VOLS!!

    Vol_Nation_79

  • Vol_Nation_79 said...

    I know one thing about this team, it seems to me that McCrae and Golden thinks they have to do a little to much sometimes. I was at the game last night and I don't know how many times I seen Stokes and Hall set a screen for 52 & 11 many times, then roll off and be wide open right under the goal??? I just don't see how you miss seeing the pick & roll wide open over and over? The main thing though, is that they came out with the W!! GO VOLS!!

    I thought the strategy was sound but the execution was lacking. In addition Florida is one of it not the best defensive teams in the country. To your point it has baffled me all year that we do not run pick and roll all day. Stokes is the perfect pick and roll big.

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  • VolPett said...

    Lazy? I just did not read that.

    Yes you did. Lazy is when you quit trying to create. You kill time and you end up taking a trash three. That's lazy offense in my book.

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  • Vol_Nation_79 said...

    I know one thing about this team, it seems to me that McCrae and Golden thinks they have to do a little to much sometimes. I was at the game last night and I don't know how many times I seen Stokes and Hall set a screen for 52 & 11 many times, then roll off and be wide open right under the goal??? I just don't see how you miss seeing the pick & roll wide open over and over? The main thing though, is that they came out with the W!! GO VOLS!!

    Very, very hard pass to make with a big guy hedging and Florida playing pretty good weakside help defense. The Florida guy would bluff help from the weakside enough to deter them from making a diagonal pass across the lane. The easiest pick and roll passes to make are from the wing, and Florida was 'icing' or pushing the dribbler away from the screen on the wings. It takes a point good with a very good IQ and awareness to make the pass across the lane on a pick and roll with weakside help.

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