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volfan28 said...
Now that we know who we are working with, let's have fun and compare.
Can 2013 match 2012's production? This is a really hard question to answer at this point, but it could be fun to discuss. I don't think we'll put up as many yards or score as many points, because we won't hit as many big plays, but I think we will have a better offense in 2013.
We now have at least two cerebral QBs on our roster, Worley and Dobbs. I think they will manage the game better than Bray. We also have two QBs capable of moving the chains with their feet, Peterman and Dobbs. That is an ability that can be back-breaking to a defense. You've seen it too many times; a defense forces 3rd down, the play isn't there for the offense, QB gets a first down with his legs. Call me crazy, but I think our 2013 QBs will give us a better chance to win games. There's a lot to be said for having a QB who knows what play to run and knows where to go with the football. I think between Dobbs and Worley, we'll find that guy, and it will help us win close games.
We'll miss Patterson, but honestly I don't think we'll miss Hunter that much. He's got some amazing tools, but I was never impressed with his production. He did finish 4th in the SEC in recieving but we attempted the 2nd most passes in the league, so I'm not really impressed by that stat. What I remember most about Hunter was the tipped pass against Ole Miss as a freshman, and a few key drops as a junior. Patterson, on the other hand, is an irreplaceable weapon. 2013's got some pretty good weapons of their own; Croom, North, Pig, and Jenkins. That's a beautiful blend of size, strength, physicality, speed, elusiveness, and route-running. I really think Jenkins could be a huge factor in this offense with his route-running ablity and 4.5 speed. North should be able to produce as much as Hunter did. Croom and Pig are dangerous weapons that I'm interested to see how our coaches utilize. You gotta give the receiving edge to 2012, especially considering that we aren't sure who will replace Rivera, but I think it's closer than most people do.
We have the best OL in the country. They're gonna dominate folks and I can't wait to see it. There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to block effectively against everyone we play, including South Carolina. I think Tiny did a great job against Clowney last year. We do lose Dallas Thomas, but Marcus Jackson is no joke. The benefits from the added experience and continuity resulting from the return of 4 already-experienced starters is immeasurable. I'm really excited to see what these guys can do. Could be the best OL in school history.
There is no denying how much our RBs improved from 2011 to 2012 and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue in 2013. They began to run more aggresively last season, particulary toward the end of the year, and I think being in a run oriented offense will help them develop more of a physical mentality. Cincy ran the ball 492 times last year, averaged over 200 ypg, and led the Big East in rushing. They only attempted 371 passes, 106 fewer than Tennessee. Our RBs will also benefit from the offensive line and another off-season with Coach Graham. I think both Lane and Neal could finish with close to 1,000 yards, and I think at least one of them will surpass it.
So schematically and overall I think we'll be better in 2013. I think we'll have a better decision maker at QB, but obviously nobody is going to throw it like Bray. I think we'll have a better OL and better RBs and combine that with the new scheme and we should have a MUCH improved running game. Our WRs are at least comparable. We won't have the big play aspect that CP brought but I do expect us to be more consistent in the passing game. Bray had 3 games of over 400 yards passing, and 3 games of under 200, we were widely inconsistent. A consistent running game will lead to a consistent passing game and this will help the entire offense form an identity. When you know who you are, you perform better when you're faced with trials. Last year's offense (particularly the QB) was an emotional rollercoaster because they didn't have an identity. You heard the coaches emphasize the running game, but you saw them emphasize the passing game. We won't see anything like that in 2013, and I expect better results in the W column as a product of that.
What say you?
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volfan28 said...
Now that we know who we are working with, let's have fun and compare.
Can 2013 match 2012's production? This is a really hard question to answer at this point, but it could be fun to discuss. I don't think we'll put up as many yards or score as many points, because we won't hit as many big plays, but I think we will have a better offense in 2013.
We now have at least two cerebral QBs on our roster, Worley and Dobbs. I think they will manage the game better than Bray. We also have two QBs capable of moving the chains with their feet, Peterman and Dobbs. That is an ability that can be back-breaking to a defense. You've seen it too many times; a defense forces 3rd down, the play isn't there for the offense, QB gets a first down with his legs. Call me crazy, but I think our 2013 QBs will give us a better chance to win games. There's a lot to be said for having a QB who knows what play to run and knows where to go with the football. I think between Dobbs and Worley, we'll find that guy, and it will help us win close games.
We'll miss Patterson, but honestly I don't think we'll miss Hunter that much. He's got some amazing tools, but I was never impressed with his production. He did finish 4th in the SEC in recieving but we attempted the 2nd most passes in the league, so I'm not really impressed by that stat. What I remember most about Hunter was the tipped pass against Ole Miss as a freshman, and a few key drops as a junior. Patterson, on the other hand, is an irreplaceable weapon. 2013's got some pretty good weapons of their own; Croom, North, Pig, and Jenkins. That's a beautiful blend of size, strength, physicality, speed, elusiveness, and route-running. I really think Jenkins could be a huge factor in this offense with his route-running ablity and 4.5 speed. North should be able to help us as much as Hunter did. Croom and Pig are dangerous weapons that I'm interested to see how our coaches utilize. You gotta give the receiving edge to 2012, especially considering that we aren't sure who will replace Rivera, but I think it's closer than most people do.
We have the best OL in the country. They're gonna dominate folks and I can't wait to see it. There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to block effectively against everyone we play, including South Carolina. I think Tiny did a great job against Clowney last year. We do lose Dallas Thomas, but Marcus Jackson is no joke. The benefits from the added experience and continuity resulting from the return of 4 already-experienced starters is immeasurable. I'm really excited to see what these guys can do. Could be the best OL in school history.
There is no denying how much our RBs improved from 2011 to 2012 and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue in 2013. They began to run more aggresively last season, particulary toward the end of the year, and I think being in a run oriented offense will help them develop more of a physical mentality. Cincy ran the ball 492 times last year, averaged over 200 ypg, and led the Big East in rushing. They only attempted 371 passes, 106 fewer than Tennessee. Our RBs will also benefit from the offensive line and another off-season with Coach Graham. I think both Lane and Neal could finish with close to 1,000 yards, and I think at least one of them will surpass it.
So schematically and overall I think we'll be better in 2013. I think we'll have a better decision maker at QB, but obviously nobody is going to throw it like Bray. I think we'll have a better OL and better RBs and combine that with the new scheme and we should have a MUCH improved running game. Our WRs are at least comparable. We won't have the big play aspect that CP brought but I do expect us to be more consistent in the passing game. Bray had 3 games of over 400 yards passing, and 3 games of under 200, we were widely inconsistent. A consistent running game will lead to a consistent passing game and this will help the entire offense form an identity. When you know who you are, you perform better when you're faced with trials. Last year's offense (particularly the QB) was an emotional rollercoaster because they didn't have an identity. You heard the coaches emphasize the running game, but you saw them emphasize the passing game. We won't see anything like that in 2013, and I expect better results in the W column as a product of that.
What say you?
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bavw said...
+1 for the optimism, but I think the offense will be significantly worse.
Passing:
-Bray for all his faults was an SEC starter for 3 years, running the same offense, and can make any throw. I don't think he is a winner, but in terms of production, what he lacked in mobility I think he easily made up for in experience and his arm.
- I agree that Hunter did not meet expectations last year (unfairly high coming off an ACL IMO), but opposing defenses were scared to death of him and CP. We are moving from a top WR/TE duo to Pig, ?, and Downs. It is no comparison.Rushing
- The line will be very good, but new system and teams are going to be able to put an extra guy in the box. If you look at the games last year, nobody was daring to put an 8th guy in the box, and often times we were running against 6 man fronts. It won't be the same next year, plus it is a different system.
- I like our running backs and think they improved throughout the year last year. I just think this will be the first time they are facing defenses aimed at stopping the run.I think CBJ is a better game coach the CDD, and because of that we may win more games, but I do not think there is any chance we match the offensive production from the team last year.
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bavw said...
+1 for the optimism, but I think the offense will be significantly worse.
Passing: -Bray for all his faults was an SEC starter for 3 years, running the same offense, and can make any throw. I don't think he is a winner, but in terms of production, what he lacked in mobility I think he easily made up for in experience and his arm. - I agree that Hunter did not meet expectations last year (unfairly high coming off an ACL IMO), but opposing defenses were scared to death of him and CP. We are moving from a top WR/TE duo to Pig, ?, and Downs. It is no comparison.
Rushing - The line will be very good, but new system and teams are going to be able to put an extra guy in the box. If you look at the games last year, nobody was daring to put an 8th guy in the box, and often times we were running against 6 man fronts. It won't be the same next year, plus it is a different system. - I like our running backs and think they improved throughout the year last year. I just think this will be the first time they are facing defenses aimed at stopping the run.
I think CBJ is a better game coach the CDD, and because of that we may win more games, but I do not think there is any chance we match the offensive production from the team last year.
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utpj said...
What about Drae Bowles as a solid wr... also I think we will start out with a Tight End by committee process that may find ONE solid guy. Maybe staying multiple in that position as well if it fits it in w CBJ' scheme. I really think having group of players on the field who can, may or will be able to switch positions on the fly without bringing in any subs will really be to our advantage by keeping the opponents D constantly guessing and having to make quick subs... Example : one play, Pig in the slot, Lane RB, Croom split out and Dobbs at QB.( clearly I'm leaving out many positions just in order to make a point)... Next play w zero subs... Pig at wildcat, Croom at tight end, Lane at wr, Dobbs as a wr on week side. Their are too many combinations for me to even think about trying to list...but, this is going to be one of our tactics and I believe one of our advantages especially with our O-Line!! VFL!!!
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volfan28 said...
I agree. I particularly like the versatility of Croom (WR/TE) and Pig (WR/RB). We could easilty switch from 3-wide w/ a TE, to 4-wide, to 5-wide without having to make a sub. We will miss the big play ability of Bray and Patterson but there is other effective ways to move the ball and in some ways the methodical approach is better because it helps you manage the clock, something our previous staff didn't care about.
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