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johncimino19 said...
Reading the VIP Room (once again great job guys and thank you for your hard work), it seems to look like there's some miscommunications and minor problems such as missed assignments and alignments. They also said no one has completely gotten down the schemes. Now I know there's still 25 days til kickoff, plenty of practices and scrimmages.
But does anyone worry that this defense may look kind of clueless when actual play starts and may look like "chickens with their heads cut off" and panic. Just don't want anyone to be left on an island alone.
My description may be kind of elaborated but I hope I got my point across. Thoughts?
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LWSVOL said...
I will be shocked if they have this down without quite a bit of breakdowns the first half of the season. Perhaps the entire season. Having all 11 guys executing their assignments correctly is difficult under normal circumstances without at least one bust. While learning a complete new system, it will take awhile.. I asked the DC in June if it was a myth that it is difficult to go from 4-3 to 3-4 and he said it was no myth. its tough transition. But he believes in the 3-4 and believes it also keeps the opposing QB confused as well,
Why we can't afford many injuries in fron tline guys. they will execute better than those behind him. They expect to play the 11 that KNOW best what to do.
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I will be shocked if they have this down without quite a bit of breakdowns the first half of the season. Perhaps the entire season. Having all 11 guys executing their assignments correctly is difficult under normal circumstances without at least one bust. While learning a complete new system, it will take awhile.. I asked the DC in June if it was a myth that it is difficult to go from 4-3 to 3-4 and he said it was no myth. its tough transition. But he believes in the 3-4 and believes it also keeps the opposing QB confused as well,
Why we can't afford many injuries in fron tline guys. they will execute better than those behind him. They expect to play the 11 that KNOW best what to do.
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I don't really know that and I think the comments on Herm are more in tune with how hard he has studied tape this summer. I don't staff has determined at all who gets it and who doesn't. No one was getting it comnig out of spring IMO no matter what anyone says. Players are not going to get it down in 15 days. Staff will need to shuffle through in the next 2 weeks or so and decide who understands the most and then play them
I doubt the coaches will even be confident in their top 11 by the NC State game. They have to go up to 3 deep on the line to keep them fresh so surely they make it simple as they can for those guys. I would guess at LB and DB, front line guys will play a LOT early on.
they just haven't had enough time in pads on the practice field for many to "get it". That is still to come. Hopefully, by 8/31 a lot get it.
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I don't really know that and I think the comments on Herm are more in tune with how hard he has studied tape this summer. I don't staff has determined at all who gets it and who doesn't. No one was getting it comnig out of spring IMO no matter what anyone says. Players are not going to get it down in 15 days. Staff will need to shuffle through in the next 2 weeks or so and decide who understands the most and then play them
I doubt the coaches will even be confident in their top 11 by the NC State game. They have to go up to 3 deep on the line to keep them fresh so surely they make it simple as they can for those guys. I would guess at LB and DB, front line guys will play a LOT early on.
they just haven't had enough time in pads on the practice field for many to "get it". That is still to come. Hopefully, by 8/31 a lot get it.
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coachingwiz said...
Curious question comes to mind.
The reports are obviously saying that our recruiting is improving. If our offense goes out and plays great! but our defense struggles to adjust to the new system even with the talent we have... Does coach Sals credibility mean that Hart would be confident in keeping this staff together even with just say 6 wins and a bowl game this year if it is obvious that it is due to the change in defensive philosophy and with a second year under Sal our team would be tremendously better?
Because if we are lost on d this is a possibility. But I'd like to think our offense will be able to pull out some games and still win 7 or 8 even with a confused defense
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coachingwiz said...
Curious question comes to mind.
The reports are obviously saying that our recruiting is improving. If our offense goes out and plays great! but our defense struggles to adjust to the new system even with the talent we have... Does coach Sals credibility mean that Hart would be confident in keeping this staff together even with just say 6 wins and a bowl game this year if it is obvious that it is due to the change in defensive philosophy and with a second year under Sal our team would be tremendously better?
Because if we are lost on d this is a possibility. But I'd like to think our offense will be able to pull out some games and still win 7 or 8 even with a confused defense
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Curious question comes to mind.
The reports are obviously saying that our recruiting is improving. If our offense goes out and plays great! but our defense struggles to adjust to the new system even with the talent we have... Does coach Sals credibility mean that Hart would be confident in keeping this staff together even with just say 6 wins and a bowl game this year if it is obvious that it is due to the change in defensive philosophy and with a second year under Sal our team would be tremendously better?
Because if we are lost on d this is a possibility. But I'd like to think our offense will be able to pull out some games and still win 7 or 8 even with a confused defense
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OrangeNCarolina said...
I'm gonna throw out the intangible card. With all of the team unity activities this off season, the sense of a good comraderie among players, the getaway to Milligan for a week, and the emergence of some leadership, will the defense be able to overcome a few x's and o's just by playing as a team and having each others' backs? I think there's something to be said for team chemistry that can sometimes mask execution blips just by sheer determination and commitment to your teammates.Relevant or just
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I will be shocked if they have this down without quite a bit of breakdowns the first half of the season. Perhaps the entire season. Having all 11 guys executing their assignments correctly is difficult under normal circumstances without at least one bust. While learning a complete new system, it will take awhile.. I asked the DC in June if it was a myth that it is difficult to go from 4-3 to 3-4 and he said it was no myth. its tough transition. But he believes in the 3-4 and believes it also keeps the opposing QB confused as well,
Why we can't afford many injuries in fron tline guys. they will execute better than those behind him. They expect to play the 11 that KNOW best what to do.
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atlemoryvol said...
I'm definitely worried about that. But I'm not sure there is anyway around it. I think Sal will start to pair it down after this first week together. But looking at Georgia and other teams that have made the switch to a 3-4, I just think we are going to have a rough year on defense. We are going to have to out score our opponents. I really hope we do and I think we can. The investment in our D will pay off next year if we have a good enough year this year to keep all our coaches moving forward.
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