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Possible changes in staff?

  • MiltonVol said...

    Just heard tonight that Dooley contacted Larry Porter earlier this evening. If true, you have to think it would be regarding coaching either OL or RBs, with my personal preference being RBs. I think he would be a dynamite hire at a "position of need," as we say in Recruitistanese. Anyone else hear any rumblings in this regard?

    Porter has been contacted by at least 5 SEC schools. I would guess several non-SEC schools as well.

    sounds like he will have some options

    LWSVOL

  • LWSVOL said...

    Porter has been contacted by at least 5 SEC schools. I would guess several non-SEC schools as well.

    sounds like he will have some options

    Wow

    wataugavol

  • LWSVOL said...

    Porter has been contacted by at least 5 SEC schools. I would guess several non-SEC schools as well.

    sounds like he will have some options

    Let the bidding war begin.

    Dougs Rug Vol

  • I'm surprised nobody suggests replacing Chaney. I watch Bama, LSU, UGA, Arkansas, etc. and see imaginative play calling. I watch us and see - at best - some questionable and dumb playcalling. Isn't that on Chaney? Can't we find someone better?

    elderbro

  • elderbro said...

    I'm surprised nobody suggests replacing Chaney. I watch Bama, LSU, UGA, Arkansas, etc. and see imaginative play calling. I watch us and see - at best - some questionable and dumb playcalling. Isn't that on Chaney? Can't we find someone better?

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    Glad to have you on the board, elderbro. Hope this is the first of many posts we see from you.

    Just out of curiosity, what do you think was "questionable and dumb" about Chaney's play-calling? I've heard this claim by some fans, but I'm not sure what qualifies as a questionable or dumb play call aside from one that doesn't work, which only can be seen in hindsight.

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  • Ryan Callahan said...

    Glad to have you on the board, elderbro. Hope this is the first of many posts we see from you.

    Just out of curiosity, what do you think was "questionable and dumb" about Chaney's play-calling. I've heard this claim by many fans, but I'm not sure what qualifies as a questionable or dumb play call aside from one that doesn't work, which only can be seen in hindsight.

    I have been very happy with Chaney. 2012 will be the 4th year in his system, and he has shown that he can do some good things with less than stellar talent (i.e. Crompton), getting Da'Rick open even when teams are scheming against him, etc. When the players execute the offense looks very good. Think about the Vols last scoring drive in regulation where Bray marched them down the field. The run was working as well as the pass, and you got a good look at how potent the offense can be when all parts are working as they should. I scratched my head a little bit at the wildcat on the 5 against UK considering the snap issues it had in the past, but you can't coach scared. You have to call plays assuming the players will execute. I like Chaney and am 100% confident he isn't part of the problem, but part of the solution.

    volfan002

  • Chaney was a genius with Bray last year and against Cincy this year and now he is the goat. Ahhh, life in the SEC.

    wataugavol

  • UT NEEDS an RB coach. They will attract better RB talent with a position coach.

    GO VOLS!! VFL!!

    UTLyle

  • wataugavol said...

    Chaney was a genius with Bray last year and against Cincy this year and now he is the goat. Ahhh, life in the SEC.

    I'm not buying the fire Chaney crap. I have yet to see a realistic name that is better. someone needs to figure out the o line problem but the problem may not be the coach. It could strength and or fitness.

    SRDC Vol

  • SRDC Vol said...

    I'm not buying the fire Chaney crap. I have yet to see a realistic name that is better. someone needs to figure out the o line problem but the problem may not be the coach. It could strength and or fitness.

    To be honest, don't think Dooley could afford to replace him. A knew OC likely needs more than 1 season to install his offense. Dooley doesn't have that luxury.
    That being said, I agree with you, the OL is the problem, that's #1 priority.

    wataugavol

  • wataugavol said...

    To be honest, don't think Dooley could afford to replace him. A knew OC likely needs more than 1 season to install his offense. Dooley doesn't have that luxury.
    That being said, I agree with you, the OL is the problem, that's #1 priority.

    Plus 1

    Good analysis

    SRDC Vol

  • Thanks, Ryan, for your reply and your question - I deserved that. I am not a coach (thank god), but I do think, for instance, that the play calling at first and goal from their 8 was questionable.... Why not try letting Tiny lead the way on first down ( worked pretty well vs. Vandy), then if that didn't score, try something other than the wildcat -- with Bray doing something more " tried and true" instead..... You're right, the plays that don't work always seem " dumb" (bad choice of words on my part I reckon). Just seemed to me we had too many plays that didn't work this season....

    Really enjoy what you guys provide, and that includes the thoughtful posters.

    This post was edited by elderbro on 11/29/2011 at 9:08 AM

    elderbro

  • elderbro said...

    Thanks, Ryan, for your reply and your question - I deserved that. I am not a coach (thank god), but I do think, for instance, that the play calling at first and goal from their 8 was questionable.... Why not try letting Tiny lead the way on first down ( worked pretty well vs. Vandy), then if that didn't score, try something other than the wildcat -- with Bray doing something more " tried and true" instead..... You're right, the plays that don't work always seem " dumb" (bad choice of words on my part I reckon). Just seemed to me we had too many plays that didn't work this season....

    Really enjoy what you guys provide, and that includes the thoughtful posters.

    Thanks for giving us a try from one elderbro to another.

    Post often!

    preciatecha

    Kevin Ryan

  • SRDC Vol said...

    I'm not buying the fire Chaney crap. I have yet to see a realistic name that is better. someone needs to figure out the o line problem but the problem may not be the coach. It could strength and or fitness.

    I think the o-line's problem is 1 part coaching and 1 part strength/conditioning. To see an entire unit fail to perform for an entire season at run blocking falls on the o-line coach. The other part is that a couple of those guys probably would have benefited from a redshirt (i.e. James Stone, and I'm sure he isn't the only one). On a team with depth, a lot of those guys wouldn't have played much if at all, much less started. They need more time to get their bodies developed and their strength level up. I think a 2nd year with the same s&c coach will do wonders in 2012.

    volfan002

  • Let's see...
    1. We are backed up in our own 10guy and he throws it 6and straight times on two consecutive series.
    2. When we start moving the ball well, he goes with the wildcat.
    3. Pass on first two downs and then run it on 3rd and (6-10).
    4. He does not use his weapons accordingly. Get the ball to Arnett and Young in space. That's why we signed them. No excuses.
    5. Never got the run game going and don't give me excuses. A good coach could take the talent Tennessee has and be productive.
    6. No creativity.
    7. Fades to Zach Rogers? Really?
    8. WR sweeps are mismanaged.

    There's no excuses. These are just a few off the top of ny head. The thing that upsets me most is we look lost half the time. Chaney can be the greatest x and o guy ever but if he can't get the players to buy in and learn it then it does no good. I've seen others do more with less talent. I've talked with x and o with Chaney last spring practice. The guy is brilliant but his situational playcalling and philosophy doesn't mesh. We have no identity.

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  • I've heard the same complaints about Chaney's play calling. Personally, I don't see Chaney's play calling be bad but more of the players not being able to execute. Maybe the system is too complicated, or maybe the injuries really revealed the lack of ability on the offensive side. There needs to be some changes with the coaching on offense.

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  • Bob_Vols said...

    Let's see... 1. We are backed up in our own 10guy and he throws it 6and straight times on two consecutive series. 2. When we start moving the ball well, he goes with the wildcat. 3. Pass on first two downs and then run it on 3rd and (6-10). 4. He does not use his weapons accordingly. Get the ball to Arnett and Young in space. That's why we signed them. No excuses. 5. Never got the run game going and don't give me excuses. A good coach could take the talent Tennessee has and be productive. 6. No creativity. 7. Fades to Zach Rogers? Really? 8. WR sweeps are mismanaged.

    There's no excuses. These are just a few off the top of ny head. The thing that upsets me most is we look lost half the time. Chaney can be the greatest x and o guy ever but if he can't get the players to buy in and learn it then it does no good. I've seen others do more with less talent. I've talked with x and o with Chaney last spring practice. The guy is brilliant but his situational playcalling and philosophy doesn't mesh. We have no identity.

    I agree with some of your points. I think the lack of getting run going isn't on Chaney but on the O-line coach because after the Cincinnati game it was all down hill for the line. I also agree with the lack of creativity.

    Why did Chaney put Bray in as a WR against Vandy knowing he wouldn't be a viable target given the issue with his thumb.

    I do think we will see some changes with the staff on the offense but I don't think it will be Chaney, unless there is an OC out there that is a must have and Hart allows Dooley to get him.

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  • Welcome Volsfaninohio. Glad to have you on board.

    Dougs Rug Vol

  • Thanks for signing up Volsfaninohio. Where are you in the Buckeye State? I grew up in Cincinnati, went to Sycamore High School - right down the road from Moeller.

    Welcome to the board!

    preciatecha

    Kevin Ryan

  • volsfaninohio said...

    I've heard the same complaints about Chaney's play calling. Personally, I don't see Chaney's play calling be bad but more of the players not being able to execute. Maybe the system is too complicated, or maybe the injuries really revealed the lack of ability on the offensive side. There needs to be some changes with the coaching on offense.

    welcome

    wataugavol

  • Kevin Ryan said...

    Thanks for signing up Volsfaninohio. Where are you in the Buckeye State? I grew up in Cincinnati, went to Sycamore High School - right down the road from Moeller.

    Welcome to the board!

    preciatecha

    Cincinnati as well. Went to Mason High School.

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  • volsfaninohio said...

    Cincinnati as well. Went to Mason High School.

    Nice! Former principal at Mason is my son's elementary school teacher here in Tennessee.

    One of my best friends in the world just moved from Mason to Montgomery. When I grew up, Mason was out there a bit. Now, it's just another Cincinnati suburb.

    Welcome to the board. Have some Skyline, Montgomery Inn, LaRosa's and Graeters for me today, OK?

    Kevin Ryan

  • Welcome! I also have alot of family between Cincy and Dayton. My great uncle used to own one of the biggest Haunted Woods in Spingboro before retiring from it. I want to start one near the Murfreesboro area next year

    MTVol3

  • elderbro said...

    I'm surprised nobody suggests replacing Chaney. I watch Bama, LSU, UGA, Arkansas, etc. and see imaginative play calling. I watch us and see - at best - some questionable and dumb playcalling. Isn't that on Chaney? Can't we find someone better?

    Maybe, but we could also find someone worse. Play calling looked good against Cincinnati before the injuries. Plus, it takes time to adjust to a new offensive system, so that could set us back. For anyone looking for immediate improvement next year, you don't want to make a change at HC, DC, or OC. Changing any of those 3 most likely sets us back a year or two IMO.

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