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polirules said...
Honestly, if Tennessee lets Dooley go, I'd doubt Tennessee brings in anyone with just a coordinator background. I doubt they would want a lower level head coach because of what has happened the past few seasons.
I hope Dooley stays. I am in that camp. If he leaves I would be happy with an out of the box thinker like Gus Malzahn.
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NDGuyinFL said...
I hope y'all don't mind me stopping in. Despite my love for Notre Dame, I have always had an affinity for UT; ever since the days of Peyton Manning, the championship run with Tee Martin, Peerless Price, the Travis', Copeland, Shaun Ellis, Deon Grant, Al Wilson, Raynoch Thompson, Goodrich, etc. Incredible team..
I am sure y'all have had enough about the 'who is going to replace Dooley' talks since the season isn't over and he's still your coach, but I am wondering who YOU want to replace him if it should happen. I know the Gruden talk is out there, but do you want a coach with a proven track record as a HC (i.e. Strong-Louisville, Dykes-LA Tech (I wouldn't blame you for wanting to pass on him for obivious reasons), Briles-Baylor, Mullen-Miss. St., etc.) or do you want one of the exceptional coordinators (Kirby Smart-Bama, Bob Diaco-ND, Todd Monken-Okla. St., Todd Grantham-GA, Mark Helfrich-OU, Chad Morris/Brent Venables-Clemson, etc.)..
I just ask because as an Irish fan, I've been through the 'man, I hope we hire the right guy. I'm sick of mediocrity' times on a few occasions and as someone who has seen what Rocky Top really is and how special that football team can be, I hope that they nail it this time around. No settling for a 'good' coach and no settling for '8-5 is pretty good'.. Just as in South Bend, the fans of Knoxville are used to being exceptional and not only expect the best, but deserve the best.
P.S. I am not interested in getting involved in the Brian Kelly to Tennessee argument. If you want him go ahead and say it. I don't blame you. But I have no interest in getting into the 'SEC sucks' and 'Everyone Gives ND everything' BS. Just a football fan looking for good conversation.
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CLEMSONVOL716 said...
Thanks for stopping by..It's always fun to have a good conversation with fans of other teams.
If UT decides to replace Dooley, I think you have to have a homerun hire...the fan base will not settle for anything less. In addition to having a great win loss record,the new coach will be expected to put butts in the seats to fill up Neyland Stadium. I don't think that an up and coming coach will do that, especially after the struggles UT has been through the last 3 season. Also, after having to "settle" for an up and coming coach last hire, I don't think the VOLS need to or can stand to take another PR hit by hiring anything other than a homerun hire.
If you don't make the homerun hire, stay the course. I think Dooley recruits as well or better than any other mid-major or up and coming coach, so in order to keep our current class or improve it, a homerun hire will be needed.
Bottom line to me is: either hire a homerun coach, and do it no later than the Monday after the last game or leave Dooley in place and move forward for next year.
Again, thanks for stopping by and feel to drop in anytime..our home here is really a great place to visit!!
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NDGuyinFL said...
I appreciate the hospitality. It's always good to talk to other fans.
I agree with you that UT needs a home run, but I'm wondering who you would consider to be in that category (other than Gruden, of course). Also, despite what some lack in HC experience, others have proven to be exceptional recruiters. Where does the balance swing? Do you take a less-proven coach who is a home-run recruiter?
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bavw said...
A. Nice post OP, you had me at Peerless. B. I said this in another post, but look at what Lane is doing at USC (6-2, big game to go against Oregon and ND, not exactly great considering all those seniors came back) and I am in no rush to bring in someone new at this point. Elite coaches are hard to find, and this years pool has a lot of question marks. C. UT has some added difficulties for a few reasons, lack of in-state talent, not being a national brand like ND, and being surrounded by all the other big programs in the SEC. That is why Leech wouldn't work IMO, our coach needs to win recruiting battles against Saban, Saint Mark, Muschamp, Spurrier, etc despite not being the home state school. D. I think our next coach needs to be a star. Hiring a coordinator won't work because the fanbase won't let someone learn on the job. IMO, Strong isn't a proven upgrade IMO (They are winning close games against other bad teams, and if Bray switched places with Bridgewater in the 4th QTR, we would be 7-1). So long story short, I think you go after Gruden and if he says no, you wait.
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NDGuyinFL said...
I appreciate the hospitality. It's always good to talk to other fans.
I agree with you that UT needs a home run, but I'm wondering who you would consider to be in that category (other than Gruden, of course). Also, despite what some lack in HC experience, others have proven to be exceptional recruiters. Where does the balance swing? Do you take a less-proven coach who is a home-run recruiter?
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bavw said...
I support CDD because I think he is building a team that will compete with UGA, UF, and Scar every year. To me, the difference between a 11-1 and 9-3 is a lot of luck, and teams tend to be luckier when there is some continuity.
I don't mean this as a negative towards ND, you guys are real good, but Purdue, Michigan, Stanford, and BYU are all games that could have gone the other way for ND this year. I mean look at ND last year, 4 close losses; and I don't believe Brian Kelly all of a sudden learned how to coach.
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NDGuyinFL said...
Haha. Thank you. I always wondered why Jermaine Copeland never (at least to my recollection) got a shot. He was the ying to Peerless' yang. Also, that defense with Ellis, Darwin Walker, Ratliff, Wilson (still one of my all-time favorites), Thompson, Stevenson, Grant, Goodrich, and Lott deserved a lot more credit then they got. They were dominate.
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bavw said...
I support CDD because I think he is building a team that will compete with UGA, UF, and Scar every year. To me, the difference between a 11-1 and 9-3 is a lot of luck, and teams tend to be luckier when there is some continuity.
I don't mean this as a negative towards ND, you guys are real good, but Purdue, Michigan, Stanford, and BYU are all games that could have gone the other way for ND this year. I mean look at ND last year, 4 close losses; and I don't believe Brian Kelly all of a sudden learned how to coach.
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NDGuyinFL said...
Thank you sir.
I do agree with you. He has to win out and I'm still not convinced that will save him. They have disappointed over and over again versus SEC rivals and I don't know how much more the boosters, or the fans, can take seeing UF beat UT (I know I hate it.)
It will be interesting to see what transpires.
I'm going to go out on a limb and make a complete guess.
Dan Mullen will be the next coach at UT.
Why? I don't know. Why not? He is an SEC coach who has done a great job, I think he has peaked at Mississippi State, and the resources there are nowhere near what he would have at UT. He knows how to win and I think could take UT to the next level. However, he is going to need a big raise to leave, but I don't think that should be an issue.
Thoughts?
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NDGuyinFL said...
Thank you sir.
I do agree with you. He has to win out and I'm still not convinced that will save him. They have disappointed over and over again versus SEC rivals and I don't know how much more the boosters, or the fans, can take seeing UF beat UT (I know I hate it.)
It will be interesting to see what transpires.
I'm going to go out on a limb and make a complete guess.
Dan Mullen will be the next coach at UT.
Why? I don't know. Why not? He is an SEC coach who has done a great job, I think he has peaked at Mississippi State, and the resources there are nowhere near what he would have at UT. He knows how to win and I think could take UT to the next level. However, he is going to need a big raise to leave, but I don't think that should be an issue.
Thoughts?
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NDGuyinFL said...
Haha. Thank you. I always wondered why Jermaine Copeland never (at least to my recollection) got a shot. He was the ying to Peerless' yang. Also, that defense with Ellis, Darwin Walker, Ratliff, Wilson (still one of my all-time favorites), Thompson, Stevenson, Grant, Goodrich, and Lott deserved a lot more credit then they got. They were dominate.
I can see your thoughts. I guess it just depends on where you sit with Dooley. If you feel his ceiling is 9-4, are you better off replacing him and starting over in the hopes of going 5-7, 8-5, 10-3, and finally 14-0 with a new coach or just settling for 9-4 every year with him? I'm just curious as to what you think.
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