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***Strong turns down Tennessee***

  • gwbask said...

    If we are throwing money around and we are chasing Grundy, Strong & Fisher....why not go after the best x and 0's coach out there. And that is Gary Patterson

    We just learned that lesson with Charlie Strong. TCU's AD has publicly stated that they have over $100M in reserves and they will spend whatever it takes to keep Gary Patterson.

    pcorange

  • Al Golden should have been the first choice after Gruden. Gundy was a horrible call. (1) he doesn't know D; (2) he is an OKSt guy through and through.

    Strong is solid, but the minute he made it obvious he was trying to use UT to get more $ from UL, UT should have walked.

    And spare me the nonsense about AUB and ARK getting who they want. That is BS. Do you really think Malzahn was choice #1? And ARK was turned down by Gruden and Gundy, and surely others.

    UT was and is the best available job.

    JBakes

  • can anyone confirm - Louisville counter offer is $4.7M per year? that is a load for Big East coach. UT going large after Strong is not the same as Alabama going large after Saben. (A Big East coach vs. NFL coach)...I wanted Strong but if indeed that rumor is correct ($4.7M) then what were we to counter that with? I mean $5M for Strong is too steep for me. Myer and Stoops makes $4.5 or so...

    muddy waters

  • JBakes said...

    Al Golden should have been the first choice after Gruden. Gundy was a horrible call. (1) he doesn't know D; (2) he is an OKSt guy through and through.

    Strong is solid, but the minute he made it obvious he was trying to use UT to get more $ from UL, UT should have walked.

    And spare me the nonsense about AUB and ARK getting who they want. That is BS. Do you really think Malzahn was choice #1? And ARK was turned down by Gruden and Gundy, and surely others.

    UT was and is the best available job.

    well said - thanks for some sanity...

    muddy waters

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  • muddy waters said...

    can anyone confirm - Louisville counter offer is $4.7M per year? that is a load for Big East coach. UT going large after Strong is not the same as Alabama going large after Saben. (A Big East coach vs. NFL coach)...I wanted Strong but if indeed that rumor is correct ($4.7M) then what were we to counter that with? I mean $5M for Strong is too steep for me. Myer and Stoops makes $4.5 or so...

    totally agree! 5 is too much for anyone not named saban meyer gruden cowher miles etc......

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  • Here's my last post until we get a hire. Obviously our AD and Cheek are morons. People have played them like fiddles to get more money and years and control of their current spots. They didn't want to come here . However, there is one out there that has actually turned down Kentucky, Purdue, and now Colorado just to still be in the mix for our job. Yep, it's the guy none of us wanted . But you know what , at his point I say give Butch Jones the job. We can get him cheaper and hire an all star defensive coordinator . The man may have been beaten by Dooley but the man has also beat Strong. He has won everywhere he's been and I say give it to someone who wants to be here . Hire Butch Jones. Good nite all. May We all keep our sanity.

    This post was edited by Winkle on 12/5/2012 at 8:50 PM

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  • muddy waters said...

    can anyone confirm - Louisville counter offer is $4.7M per year? that is a load for Big East coach. UT going large after Strong is not the same as Alabama going large after Saben. (A Big East coach vs. NFL coach)...I wanted Strong but if indeed that rumor is correct ($4.7M) then what were we to counter that with? I mean $5M for Strong is too steep for me. Myer and Stoops makes $4.5 or so...

    I agree. Strong is a pretty good coach, but we shouldn't break the bank for him. This is the only really stellar season he's had at Louisville, and it included a couple of losses to teams that shouldn't have beaten him.

    pcorange

  • we better grab Butch Jones and hope he's like Brian Kelly was when he left Cinncy! Hart has jacked around too long with this and is starting to look bad.

    Tigervol1818

  • And speaking of sanity, what is this nonsense with freaking out if a guy says no? Who freaking cares.

    Re Golden, he is young and can coach. He won at freaking Temple. TEMPLE! A school that the Big East kicked out because they were so bad.

    Re Gundy, why? Why do people think he is so good? What has he done, other than make a name for himself for telling everyone he's 40 and a man?

    I would have loved to have gotten Strong, for two reasons: (1) D and (2) recruiting. But there are a whole lot of guys out there that can do those two things.

    JBakes

  • OrangeNCarolina said...

    Fedora would certainly be a good hire. But now I'm not sure he'd come. I've talked so much junk to some of my Tarheel friends about Fedora coming to UT if we get that low on the list, if he is offered and turns it down, I may be house hunting in Tennessee by next week. Gonna run me out of NC. There is something amiss in Knoxville. Or in the words of that great philosopher, Elmer Fudd, "There's something skwewy going on."

    From what I've heard this week, I honestly feel Fedora is staying put.

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  • Winkle said...

    Here's my last post until we get a hire. Obviously our AD and Cheek are morons. People have played them like fiddles to get more money and years and control of their current spots. They didn't want to come here . However, there is one out there that has actually turned down Kentucky, Purdue, and now Colorado just to still be in the mix for our job. Yep, it's the guy none of us wanted . But you know what , at his point I say give Butch Jones the job. We can get him cheaper and hire an all star defensive coordinator . The man may have been beaten by Dooley but the man has also beat Strong. He has won everywhere he's been and I say give it to someone who wants to be here . Hire Butch Jones. Good nite all. May We all keep our sanity.

    i almost agree, but petrino is a proven winner at the sec level and has never been in trouble with the ncaa! i say we offer him and put a breach of contract in his contract where if he screws up we dont pay a buyout!

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  • darrenozratc said...

    Screw it at this point I say go get Roman he seems to be the only person pursuing UT. If we're going to suck might as well have a coach that wants to be here. CRAP!!!

    Exactly Right..We are courting coaches entrenched in plum cushy jobs..Paying Strong 4 million is just plain insane..Romans got all the creds and ability we need!! If Hart is stupid enough to offer another bush league Big East guy like Butch Jones I'll jump off a bridge..Jones is lucky he has the job he does..If Cinn. was in the SEC they would be lucky to have a 4 win season

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  • JBakes said...

    And speaking of sanity, what is this nonsense with freaking out if a guy says no? Who freaking cares.

    Re Golden, he is young and can coach. He won at freaking Temple. TEMPLE! A school that the Big East kicked out because they were so bad.

    Re Gundy, why? Why do people think he is so good? What has he done, other than make a name for himself for telling everyone he's 40 and a man?

    I would have loved to have gotten Strong, for two reasons: (1) D and (2) recruiting. But there are a whole lot of guys out there that can do those two things.

    Agreed. Well stated!

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  • NO FREAKING WAY.

    No Petrino. No Butch Davis. No Tressel.

    Golden or Butch Jones, in that order. Tell Golden, here is the offer, take it or leave it right now. If he leaves it, hire Jones. Done.

    This post was edited by JBakes on 12/5/2012 at 8:58 PM

    JBakes

  • JBakes said...

    NO FREAKING WAY.

    No Petrino. No Butch Davis. No Tressel.

    Golden or Butch Jones, in that order. Tell Golden, here is the offer, take it or leave it right now. If he leaves it, hire Jones. Done.

    agree to disagree! If we hire butch jones it better be for 1.5 mil a year with incentives for doing well and a very very very low buyout im not paying another guy 5 mil in three years to leave

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  • Well its official tomorrow is now a perfect day to get rip roaring absolutely trashed on the golf course. I've had all the coaching search I can take. Cheers gentlemen.

    darrenozratc

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  • stooks5786 said...

    agree to disagree! If we hire butch jones it better be for 1.5 mil a year with incentives for doing well and a very very very low buyout im not paying another guy 5 mil in three years to leave

    Done... see, we just showed Dave Hart how to do it.

    bgosnell151

  • The program is in so much better shape than when Dooley was hired. You should know that.

    JBakes

  • Can someone please explain to me why Jimmy Cheek is involved in our football coaching search AT ALL??? I'm serious when I ask that bc apparently he is involved bc folks are blaming him for Gruden and now Strong. He is our Chancellor, and Dave Hart is our AD. Not sure I understand why he'd be involved other than tangentially.

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  • BostonVol said...

    Can someone please explain to me why Jimmy Cheek is involved in our football coaching search AT ALL??? I'm serious when I ask that bc apparently he is involved bc folks are blaming him for Gruden and now Strong. He is our Chancellor, and Dave Hart is our AD. Not sure I understand why he'd be involved other than tangentially.

    Because he's a power hungry douche.

    JBakes

  • bgosnell151 said...

    Done... see, we just showed Dave Hart how to do it.

    yep if you are going to gamble on a guy like dooley, jones, golden, you pay them like 2 mil tops with incentives for doing well and you give them a very low buyout to minimize risk, and then who knows the guy may turn out to be the next brian kelley!

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