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Subtle Change in Dooley's Public Line?

  • Does anybody else see that Dooley has dropped that negativity that entered into many of his public comments about the team as a whole, and individual players? He caught a lot of flack during his first two years for calling some players out and I think he's changed his tune so far this year. Am I imagining things or does anyone else see this?

    Take Pallardy for example. He was turrible today, but Dooley went out of his way to say something positive about him. Last year, he might have ripped into him a little bit.

    I personally don't have a problem with the coach publicly challenging some guys, but it seems to me he's not doing that anymore. Why would that be? Clearly the team as a whole is better, but is that alone responsible for this attiitude flip?

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    RockytopATL

  • This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.

    I think we are seeing the realization that the public criticisms may have been the reason he allegedly lost control of the locker room last year. I watch the Vols and Clemson during the football season. When Bowden was coaching the Tigers, he would constantly criticize his players to the media regardless of a win or loss. The players got tired of it and started to openly complain about Bowden. They also stopped playing for him and Clemson fired his butt midway through the 2009 season.
    The military has a good idea when they say “Praise in public. Reprimand in private.”

    NavyMike

  • NavyMike said...

    This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.

    I think we are seeing the realization that the public criticisms may have been the reason he allegedly lost control of the locker room last year. I watch the Vols and Clemson during the football season. When Bowden was coaching the Tigers, he would constantly criticize his players to the media regardless of a win or loss. The players got tired of it and started to openly complain about Bowden. They also stopped playing for him and Clemson fired his butt midway through the 2009 season. The military has a good idea when they say “Praise in public. Reprimand in private.”

    Good point. I think that is clearly a factor to be considered, and may be a reason Dooley has backed off.

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    RockytopATL

  • RockytopATL said...

    Does anybody else see that Dooley has dropped that negativity that entered into many of his public comments about the team as a whole, and individual players? He caught a lot of flack during his first two years for calling some players out and I think he's changed his tune so far this year. Am I imagining things or does anyone else see this?

    Take Pallardy for example. He was turrible today, but Dooley went out of his way to say something positive about him. Last year, he might have ripped into him a little bit.

    I personally don't have a problem with the coach publicly challenging some guys, but it seems to me he's not doing that anymore. Why would that be? Clearly the team as a whole is better, but is that alone responsible for this attiitude flip?

    i've kind of noticed that.... but i also think its because he thinks we are better and are on the verge of being competitive.....

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    tlepage99

  • I think he did it because it's what Nick Saban did, and that's CDD's mentor. I think he hurt some guys' fragile psyche last year, though, and Doug Mathews pointed out on his Sun. morning radio show a couple weeks ago when discussing the same thing that we (and perhaps Dooley in the past) sometimes forget that these guys may be huge, strong, fast, PHYSICAL bada$$es, but they're just 17-22 years old.

    He pointed out that many of them grew up without sufficient male role models, in bad parts of a city or town, and were just not very mature or very strong mentally. As he put it, "you tell one of these guys he's no good enough times, and eventually he's gonna believe you."

    I do think Dools has changed the tone w/intent and purpose. Hopefully, though, he's still vigorously chewing butt behind closed doors, though. Maybe he's learned some of this from Cuonzo, too--you know, the "coach has our back, but he's tough on us" thing.

    "Bravely taking to his feet, he beat a very brave retreat." Sir Robin's Minstrels.

    doberVol

  • "The military has a good idea when they say “Praise in public. Reprimand in private.”

    I think this is going to be his approach this year, JMO.

    ocoeerivervol

  • doberVol said...

    I think he did it because it's what Nick Saban did, and that's CDD's mentor. I think he hurt some guys' fragile psyche last year, though, and Doug Mathews pointed out on his Sun. morning radio show a couple weeks ago when discussing the same thing that we (and perhaps Dooley in the past) sometimes forget that these guys may be huge, strong, fast, PHYSICAL bada$$es, but they're just 17-22 years old.

    He pointed out that many of them grew up without sufficient male role models, in bad parts of a city or town, and were just not very mature or very strong mentally. As he put it, "you tell one of these guys he's no good enough times, and eventually he's gonna believe you."

    I do think Dools has changed the tone w/intent and purpose. Hopefully, though, he's still vigorously chewing butt behind closed doors, though. Maybe he's learned some of this from Cuonzo, too--you know, the "coach has our back, but he's tough on us" thing.

    great points and i have to agree with you - def noticed a change in his attitude and i for one love it ; didnt like his criticism of the individual players last year

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  • shoeless7777 said...

    great points and i have to agree with you - def noticed a change in his attitude and i for one love it ; didnt like his criticism of the individual players last year

    I think he did it to motivate them but it backfired on him big time last year. He has and will make mistakes but he is no dummy. He analysed himself like he does everyone and everything and with input from others he has changed.

    tnbear66

  • Maybe it's just that Dooley is maturing as a head coach just as the team is maturing as players. I think he came here as a very capable coach and probably did and still does pattern himself after Saban. But after a couple of years under his belt, he starts tweaking his persona to be Coach Dooley and not a just a Saban clone. Good things lie ahead. This year. GO VOLS!

    BUTCH IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. GO VOLS!

    OrangeNCarolina

  • I think he has just been being honest and actually expects the team to perform well this year.

    jhaksn10407

  • tnbear66 said...

    I think he did it to motivate them but it backfired on him big time last year. He has and will make mistakes but he is no dummy. He analysed himself like he does everyone and everything and with input from others he has changed.

    I think you & DoberVol have some good points. Dooley seems like a pretty bright guy, and it's impressive he can make a significant persona change in 3-5 months, toning down his public criticism of players. Did the KY loss have that big an effect? Or the huge coaching turnover? ?

    ericstubb

  • He doesnt have anything to complain about yet. If he loses a bunch of games this upcoming season, then he might tear into them. If they win a lot, he won't.

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    TNjrod

  • I have two theories regarding this subject (which other people have also said, of course):

    1) Derek Dooley was not a very good coach. He criticized his players publicly, and this led to low morale on the team, hence the losing records.

    2) Derek Dooley is a straight-shooter, tells it like it is, and up until now, we've been terrible. Now he has far less to criticize.

    Either of those answers is fine with me. A third would be tragic (and is a dark combination of the other two):

    3) Derek Dooley sees the writing on the wall, sees that this team will do no better than 6-6, but is pumping them up anyway, hoping to eek out 7 or 8 wins.

    I'm going with #1. He's growing as a coach, just like these players are growing. This is his first major job after all. How many of us were great at their jobs from Day 1? I'll admit I was not nearly as proficient at my job six years ago (when I started it) as I am now.

    Baugamania

  • doberVol said...

    'Maybe he's learned some of this from Cuonzo, too--you know, the "coach has our back, but he's tough on us" thing.'

    dobervol, that is a good point. Never thought abt it like that. +1

    jake37122

  • It's obvious he has a team that he can win with. Maybe the criticisms have worked and caused everyone to pay more attention and improve in all areas.

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    OrangeVol79

  • Absolutely agree w/the Cuonzo comment. Also, got a feeling AD Hart may have had a not so subtle conversation w/Dooley on this issue??

    mlm

  • With any inexperienced leader, whether that be a coach for a football team or a manager of a business I think they have to change their approach if things did not go the way they expected. So Obviously Dooley’s 2nd year did not go the way that he expected and he has made a change in the way that he handles the team.
    Personally I didn’t mind the way he handle the team or the coaches last year, but apparently they didn’t respond the way that they needed too so I think he had to make a change based on the entire team. It may not be the way Dooley likes to do it but he is a smart guy and knows he can’t continue to do things the same way and not be successful.

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  • RockytopATL said...

    Does anybody else see that Dooley has dropped that negativity that entered into many of his public comments about the team as a whole, and individual players? He caught a lot of flack during his first two years for calling some players out and I think he's changed his tune so far this year. Am I imagining things or does anyone else see this?

    Take Pallardy for example. He was turrible today, but Dooley went out of his way to say something positive about him. Last year, he might have ripped into him a little bit.

    I personally don't have a problem with the coach publicly challenging some guys, but it seems to me he's not doing that anymore. Why would that be? Clearly the team as a whole is better, but is that alone responsible for this attiitude flip?

    I think Dooley is a straight shooter (to a fault perhaps) but I think in Palardy's case, I think CDD realizes he is a head case and they don't have great options behind him, so he is coddling his fragile psyche in public. But I agree he took a completely fresh approach with Da'Rick

    VolBaller33

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