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Unreal smokescreen Hart is putting up for the Gruden hire

  • I mean think about it.....anyone who owns a TV could put up the coaching lists most places do. All the names out there are the completely obvious ones.

    Hart lets everyone run with that until Gruden's tampa bay money runs out this month......and BOOOOOOM

    ....we have Jon Gruden. Awesome.

    OMGJonGruden

  • OMGJonGruden said...

    I mean think about it.....anyone who owns a TV could put up the coaching lists most places do. All the names out there are the completely obvious ones.

    Hart lets everyone run with that until Gruden's tampa bay money runs out this month......and BOOOOOOM

    ....we have Jon Gruden. Awesome.

    I would really hope this is right - but am not holding my breath.

    This post was edited by DCVOL on 12/4/2012 at 3:40 PM

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  • OMGJonGruden said...

    I mean think about it.....anyone who owns a TV could put up the coaching lists most places do. All the names out there are the completely obvious ones.

    Hart lets everyone run with that until Gruden's tampa bay money runs out this month......and BOOOOOOM

    ....we have Jon Gruden. Awesome.

    The only 'smoke screen' involved here has some real potent properties. lol Sorry no offense meant but it was teed up and I couldn't resist. However, Gruden is a done deal...not coming.

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  • I posted this in the gruden coach thread this is how a facebook friend sees the whole gruden thing and he makes some good points tifwiw I hope he's right and he is in with the school as part of recruiting and talking to the recruits

    Untill I see another coach at the podium, I'm holding out hope. Here's why. Over a month ago...around the time of the Miss St. or Alabama game, I was told that Gruden had begun to be wooed by some prominent UT people...Peyton, etc. Right before Halloween, it was said that he had signed a Memorandum of Understanding. Here's where it gets interesting. The tri cky part was how to proceed with letting Dooley go, timing of Gruden's current obligations etc. The plan with Dooley was to let him continue as long as there was hope for a bowl due to an automatic bonus in his contract. The decision was made after MS St regardless, it was just a matter of when it would be public. Once we hit loss #7, it was senseless to let it go any longer, so it was made public.Now to the Gruden side. Gruden (believe it or not) is STILL getting paid from the Bucs. The last paycheck is due the middle of Dec. The last MNF game will be on Dec 17 in Nashville. There is also a game on Saturday the 22nd. It has been said Gruden likes to see everything through and not bail on commitments. So the dilema is how do you slow-play the news from end of Oct to Middle of Dec. By stringing Dooley along as long as they did, it bought them a little time. Once Dooley was gone, was able to keep a LITTLE of the attention on the last game / sending Seniors out the right way. Which brings us to this week...MASS CHAOS. I can only imagine that they didn't quite anticipate the fervor this would bring. I think that is why some of the people believed an announcement would come early...just to get it out of the way. Another HUGE part of the plan to "kill some time" was to waste a couple weeks by putting the focus OFF Gruden and onto other candidates as Hart "intervews some others". I was told specifically and in no uncertain terms that there would be a "misinformation campaign the likes we have never seen around here".. (again, just what was related to me). The campaign would make it appear that the Gruden deal was buried and hopeless. This way, Hart can come to the rescue around the 2nd week of December and be seen as the savior and unifying figure to hammer out the last few differences with Gruden. This way Hart is seen as a strong AD figure and completely in control, when in reality the Boosters drove it the length of the field and let Hart punch it in from the 2 yard line.If the story holds, you will hear of several interviews, but not a whole lot of serious interest if you watch closely enough.All of the information that came out this morning makes absolutely ZERO sense. There were more contradictions between reports, it's enough to make your head spin. Gruden wasn't interested....never saw a contract...money for assistants not enough...on and on and on. It just DOESN'T add up.We might have a press conference next week to hire Coach XYZ, and if so great. I can handle being publically ridiculed...won't be the first time or last time. This is all stuff that i have been told and i believe, because it has unfolded exactly to form so far. We shall see

    VolsBen

  • OMGJonGruden said...

    I mean think about it.....anyone who owns a TV could put up the coaching lists most places do. All the names out there are the completely obvious ones.

    Hart lets everyone run with that until Gruden's tampa bay money runs out this month......and BOOOOOOM

    ....we have Jon Gruden. Awesome.

    im not going to disagree that there is disinformation out there, given what i just posted on another thread..but the ship has sailed my friend..

    frostyvol

  • This is at this point is obsence guys. Jon Gruden is NOT going to be coaching here. Whatever you drink at night I need a bottle of that. It must be good stuff.

    This post was edited by Alexdykes22 on 12/4/2012 at 4:14 PM

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  • VolsBen said...

    I posted this in the gruden coach thread this is how a facebook friend sees the whole gruden thing and he makes some good points tifwiw I hope he's right and he is in with the school as part of recruiting and talking to the recruits

    Untill I see another coach at the podium, I'm holding out hope. Here's why. Over a month ago...around the time of the Miss St. or Alabama game, I was told that Gruden had begun to be wooed by some prominent UT people...Peyton, etc. Right before Halloween, it was said that he had signed a Memorandum of Understanding. Here's where it gets interesting. The tri cky part was how to proceed with letting Dooley go, timing of Gruden's current obligations etc. The plan with Dooley was to let him continue as long as there was hope for a bowl due to an automatic bonus in his contract. The decision was made after MS St regardless, it was just a matter of when it would be public. Once we hit loss #7, it was senseless to let it go any longer, so it was made public.Now to the Gruden side. Gruden (believe it or not) is STILL getting paid from the Bucs. The last paycheck is due the middle of Dec. The last MNF game will be on Dec 17 in Nashville. There is also a game on Saturday the 22nd. It has been said Gruden likes to see everything through and not bail on commitments. So the dilema is how do you slow-play the news from end of Oct to Middle of Dec. By stringing Dooley along as long as they did, it bought them a little time. Once Dooley was gone, was able to keep a LITTLE of the attention on the last game / sending Seniors out the right way. Which brings us to this week...MASS CHAOS. I can only imagine that they didn't quite anticipate the fervor this would bring. I think that is why some of the people believed an announcement would come early...just to get it out of the way. Another HUGE part of the plan to "kill some time" was to waste a couple weeks by putting the focus OFF Gruden and onto other candidates as Hart "intervews some others". I was told specifically and in no uncertain terms that there would be a "misinformation campaign the likes we have never seen around here".. (again, just what was related to me). The campaign would make it appear that the Gruden deal was buried and hopeless. This way, Hart can come to the rescue around the 2nd week of December and be seen as the savior and unifying figure to hammer out the last few differences with Gruden. This way Hart is seen as a strong AD figure and completely in control, when in reality the Boosters drove it the length of the field and let Hart punch it in from the 2 yard line.If the story holds, you will hear of several interviews, but not a whole lot of serious interest if you watch closely enough.All of the information that came out this morning makes absolutely ZERO sense. There were more contradictions between reports, it's enough to make your head spin. Gruden wasn't interested....never saw a contract...money for assistants not enough...on and on and on. It just DOESN'T add up.We might have a press conference next week to hire Coach XYZ, and if so great. I can handle being publically ridiculed...won't be the first time or last time. This is all stuff that i have been told and i believe, because it has unfolded exactly to form so far. We shall see.

    I just can't pull myself to buy this as much as I want to!

    1. If you had told me late ast week I could have bought it. It seemed that only the Knoxville media was reporting that and Gruden had no interest and then you had the report out of Memphis and then a day or so later the report out of Chattanooga saying that he had an offer and that it was virtually close to being done. However, now we are learning of actual interviews with coaches and potentially an offer to Charlie Strong. Now if it was just the knoxville media reporting we were in talks with CCS then I could buy this again, but Louisville is announcing it as well. I personally think CCS has been offered the job and IMO (of course that is what this guy's post is, his opinion) you don't offer someone the job if you plan on hiring Gruden.

    Another thing. I'm not sure when his actual payments get done from Tampa Bay, but I heard they were done Thursday or Friday of last week. Now i'm not 100% sure on that, but that is what I had heard.

    Also I don't get that Hart wants to prove like he is this "savior" you speak of. He has a proven track record from being at FSU and Alabama and from listening to him in his PC, I don't get the fact that he wants nor needs to be seen as some kind of hero AD.

    If we don't have a coach by the end of the weekend, maybe I can get back on the Gruden bandwagon (and trust me he is my #1) and believe that maybe he really is coming. But the fact is all the reporters seem to think that a hire will be made int he next 24-48 hours and obviously that would rule out Gruden and the theory that he is waiting to be done with MNF.

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  • OMGJonGruden said...

    I mean think about it.....anyone who owns a TV could put up the coaching lists most places do. All the names out there are the completely obvious ones.

    Hart lets everyone run with that until Gruden's tampa bay money runs out this month......and BOOOOOOM

    ....we have Jon Gruden. Awesome.

    I'll give you an "A" and a +1 for effort.

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  • OMGJonGruden said...

    Hart lets everyone run with that until Gruden's tampa bay money runs out this month......and BOOOOOOM

    ....we have Jon Gruden. Awesome.

    If Hart waits until the end of the month to make a hire, a lot of people will be getting divorced.

    This post was edited by ADunc on 12/5/2012 at 12:36 AM

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