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volfan28 said...

Guys, everyone knows about the history of Notre Dame. We know about the Heismans and the National Championships. We know about Rudy. We know about the NBC contract. We know about the BCS top 8 deal. I'm not sure how "power" came into this discussion.. I thought we were trying to determine if it's easier to recruit at Tennessee or Notre Dame, so I'm not interested in the "overall" number of NFLers from both schools. I'm interested in current number of NFLers from both schools. That would indicate which school has recruited more talent in the modern era. Notre Dame has 29. Tennessee has 27. I expected the number to be more like 35-15 in favor of UT. Obviously, I was wrong and ND has had more talent come through their program in recent years than I realized but I think 29-27 indicates that neither team has an advantage today when it comes to recruiting.

If Brian Kelly is indeed an Irish American Catholic, there's pretty much no way he leaves Notre Dame. Just being devoted to the Christian faith with an emphasis on Catholicism would lock him into ND for as long as they'd have him. I don't disagree with that. I just don't think it's easier to recruit to Notre Dame. Easier to recruit Catholics? Well, yeah.. but there's a lot of kids in America who aren't.

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Rocklion2000 said...

Overall, there have been 471 NFL players from Notre Dame compared to 329 from Tennessee. They have seven Heisman trophy winners compared to Tennessee's one. They have 13 national championships compared to Tennessee's six.

They have frigging MOVIES about their program. Ever watch Rockne or better yet Rudy? They are the only program that has their own TV station. They are one of the only programs out there still that is independent and can stay independent because they don't have to give a flying flip about joining a conference and don't have to.

You know they are the only individual school that is written into the BCS contract that if they are in the top 8 they immediately make it in?

UT does not have that much power. And I'll explain why.

They ARE the Catholic school. They have feeder programs across the country. Go to Catholic High in Knoxville or Notre Dame in Chattanooga and ask them how many of them would want to play for the Irish. Now multiply that by about 300 for every other Catholic high school across America. And for every Jim Haslam we have, guess what? They probably have 50.

By the way, Notre Dame is a private college so they don't have to release salaries. That $1.4 million is a guesstimate and I've seen several sources that actually put his salary around $3 million.

You think Dooley's $5 million buyout is bad? They've paid Charlie Weis $9 million to get rid of him.

Brian Kelly also happens to be an Irish American Catholic. That's his frigging dream job. They will compensate him very well after this season.

And while its hard to see Irish support around here if you go up North where Catholics outnumber Protestants 5 to 1 you'll see it clearly.

And, yes, while I bleed orange and always will, Notre Dame is second in my heart. Why? Because I'm Catholic.

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sullik2 said...

Lol. Take a stroll through New York, LA, Boston, or Chicago. Count the ND apparel vs the Tennessee apparel.

EDIT: Also, with regards to the whole money thing. ND's endowment is estimated by Forbes (they are private and don't have to disclose) at ~$6 billion. Tennessee's is just over ~$1 billion.

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23govols said...

Just curosity ND is so great hear latley and hav so much money when was the last time they won a national title and why would vols fans care what place like new york, boston, and chicago wears we area south team. Every body asking about brain kelley if nd is his dreamjob then probably not but i believe we at least should make him say no

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NattyRUDESND said...

Kids who are smart and are good athletes are attracted to Notre Dame. They sell it as a 40 year decision not a 4 year decision. You get hurt in the NFL you can get a job anywhere making big money. We are not going to get the Alabama type kids nor do we need too. I don't know if you noticed but Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame and UCLA are pulling great talent each year. You cant compare UT with Notre Dame its not even comparable. Also ND still has sent more players to the NFL. Now that Brian K has this team going in the right direction we should be sending alot more. ButI agree we have sucked over the last 20 years and this is only one good year. If you can get this team to start winning 9 10 11 games year after year than I would say he is a hot coach.

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